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History Lesson on Iran: The Truth about the CIA and the Shah
National Review ^
| 07/25/2015
| JOSH GELERNTER
Posted on 07/25/2015 6:42:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: MadIsh32
From the perspective of Washington, though, as the newly released documents confirm, Mossadeghs biggest sin was his flirtation with the Soviet Union, which, like Britain, had colonial ties to Iran. LOL, that's rich. Colonial ties, huh? Inherited from the Czars, I guess.
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:27:57 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: MadIsh32
Standard Marxist line: the Red Scare boogeyman was imagined.
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:29:13 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: Alberta's Child
“Thats pretty much what happened in Iran in 1979, isnt it?”
No. Iran was in independent country. It was no one’s colony in 1979. You do realize that, right?
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:30:09 AM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: Alberta's Child
"Here's another history lesson" Congratulations - you have invented the factless lesson.
To: vladimir998
Then why was the United States involved in overthrowing its government in the 1950s?
This is what a lot of Americans are just starting to come to realize: The United States of America has been the "colonial power" in much of the world since the end of World War II.
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:32:29 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
To: vladimir998
FWIW, the D of I mentions tyranny/tyrant over a dozen times.
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:33:00 AM PDT
by
VRW Conspirator
(American Jobs for American Workers)
To: Alberta's Child
Nonsense, it prevented a Soviet-led communist/Islamist takeover of Iran, until Carter came along.
The two Cold War sides fought over Iran, and we won.
The Islamist rebels were all Marxists
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:36:05 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: Alberta's Child
“Then why was the United States involved in overthrowing its government in the 1950s?”
So if we help overturn an administration (not a government) in 1953 that means that nation is our colony in 1979? In the 1940’s we overthrew the governments/administrations of dozens of nations in Europe and Asia. How many of those nations were our colonies in 1970?
Do you know what the word “colony” means?
“This is what a lot of Americans are just starting to come to realize: The United States of America has been the “colonial power” in much of the world since the end of World War II.”
Okay, name our colonies acquired and maintained since WWII.
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:37:04 AM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: Trailerpark Badass
Clearly in this situation you have no idea what you are talking about.
Neither does the author of this article who attempts to explain a very complex series event in a few paragraphs and completely skips over the role of Kermit Roosevelt in the debacle
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:45:54 AM PDT
by
MadIsh32
(In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
To: SeekAndFind
What is real sad about this article is the author actually cites Kinzer’s “All the Shah’s Men” yet comes up with a completely absurd and wrong conclusion.
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:47:29 AM PDT
by
MadIsh32
(In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
To: Alberta's Child
" The United States of America has been the "colonial power" in much of the world since the end of World War II."
Please provide proof of all these "colonies."
To: Trailerpark Badass
How on earth are you conflating the Tudeh party of 1953 with Islamists? Where are you even getting this from?
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:50:00 AM PDT
by
MadIsh32
(In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
To: Trailerpark Badass
And now we have a Marxist government right here in the U.S.
Does this mean that we can count on you to support a foreign nation that overthrows our government and installs a "capitalist" government in its place?
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posted on
07/25/2015 7:59:01 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
To: vladimir998
How about any country that conducts its trade in U.S. dollars -- including its dealings with trading partners other than the U.S.?
You don't think anyone conducts trade with Iraq in dinars, do you?
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07/25/2015 8:04:54 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
To: MadIsh32
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posted on
07/25/2015 8:06:15 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: MadIsh32
LOL, feel free to ignore me then.
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posted on
07/25/2015 8:07:29 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
07/25/2015 8:20:31 AM PDT
by
gattaca
(Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
To: MadIsh32
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posted on
07/25/2015 8:24:12 AM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: Albion Wilde
It's standard left-wing boilerplate crap: Western (US) intervention is support for oppressive totalitarian tyranny, Soviet intervention is nurturing support for popular, grass-roots freedom movements.
They're "People's Republics," after all, lol.
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posted on
07/25/2015 8:31:11 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: SeekAndFind
“Irans Islamist dictators were a predictable consequence of American imperialism,
This is so much more complicated than a stupid Leftist statement like that.
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posted on
07/25/2015 8:35:20 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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