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1 posted on 07/24/2015 9:47:18 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Damn, you can smell the fear through the computer.


2 posted on 07/24/2015 9:51:46 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: WilliamIII
a candidate that they see as an outsider above the petty politics

How can they be so wrong? Are they wrong on purpose, or are they really that stupid?

3 posted on 07/24/2015 9:52:04 PM PDT by samtheman (Trump/Cruz '16)
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Trump is not stupid. He may have a big ego, but he’s not stupid. He has to know that if he runs as an independent, he will siphon off votes from the GOP nominee and ensure the election of Hillary.

Trump has to examine what exactly he wants to accomplish? Does he want to be president? Is he willing to go through the wringer to try for the GOP nomination and have a real shot at being elected? Or does he just want to gratify his ego, by running as an independent with no realistic shot at actually winning election? And in so doing, guaranteeing that Democrats will still inhabit the White House????


4 posted on 07/24/2015 9:53:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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I’ll repeat how a 3rd Party run is not like Perot’s run in 1992. But it’s going to take a Trump/Cruz team to roll over the Washington Cartel.

It’s not such a small chance today as it was in past elections because of a huge relatively unreported change in voter affiliations. They can do it and win. Many think it will be Perot deja-vu all over again; they would be wrong.

Since 1992 the electorate has changed and since 2012 there has been a seldom reported sea change in voter registration affiliations.

In 2008, 24% of the electorate identified themselves as Independent. After 2012 and by 2014 that number surged to 42% of the electorate identifying themselves as Independent. That is an ENORMOUS change and 2/3’s of those 42% identify themselves as conservatives with most of the rest as moderates or leaning conservative.

As a result of this huge growth in the ranks of Independents, there remain only 27% republican affiliated and 31% democrat affiliated. Of the 27% republican registered, 18% are conservative base and the rest moderate or establishment, and the conservative base are mostly following Cruz and now Trump. Of the democrats 31%, 8% (of electorate) are Latino-Americans and 5% (of electorate) are Reagan democrats. Cruz will take 40% of the Latino vote (as he did in TX) and all of the Reagan democrats or will share them with Trump.

Cruz has also tapped into the 17 million apathetic but conservative-leaning Americans that don’t bother to register or vote because they see a one-party system and correctly determine that the candidates offered represent the same Oligarchs. So they withdraw and stay quiet until they have had contact in town halls with Ted Cruz. Now they are fired up.

There is no danger of a Perot-like splinter of the GOP. There is the very real possibility that Cruz/Trump takes (in % of total electorate) 28% as Independents, 3% Latino-Americans, 5% of Reagan democrats, up to 18% of the GOP conservative base and millions more who are inspired for the first time in a generation to register and show up to vote.

No matter how it is sliced, Trump/Cruz leaves the democrats and GOPe at a loss in a 3-way race. If a 3rd party movement were to emerge, the only way to stop the above confluence of political realities is to fantasize that the democrats and republicans will merge officially <— NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

But a 3rd Party movement is still in the fringe and will likely not happen. However, a merging of Trump and Cruz is very possible.


5 posted on 07/24/2015 9:54:55 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Donald Trump Staffers Eye Third-Party Run
This is the only way possible that Hillary can become President - and put McDonald’s Trump forever in the good graces of the Democrats, thereby increasing his wealth ten fold.

Watch it happen.

6 posted on 07/24/2015 10:02:05 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Oh man, here come the conspiracy theories now. Time will tell if Trump is a savior or a Hillary stooge who jobbed us all.


8 posted on 07/24/2015 10:04:10 PM PDT by dowcaet
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I don’t think the Republicans care if they lose. Most likely that is their plan. Why else would they be stabbing us in the back? Hell, they do that when they win...


12 posted on 07/24/2015 10:13:43 PM PDT by Enduro Guy
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He’s gotta get Hillary elected one way or the other!


14 posted on 07/24/2015 10:15:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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A Trump-Cruz team up seems more plausible particularly after Cruz called out Capt Mitch the joyous earlier this week.


17 posted on 07/24/2015 10:20:16 PM PDT by BigEdLB (They need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' which has nothing to do with virtue.)
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Are they7 saying it's cheaper to bypass the primaries and run in the general?

Well, of course it is.

When spending one's own money, this is a very attractive option.

And it would not diminish, one iota, his chances.

The GOP better start showing some due respect or they'll cease to exist.

Good riddance.

20 posted on 07/24/2015 10:36:45 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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I love what trump is saying. However hes a big friend of the clintons and gave a lot more funds o dekocrats than repubsover the years, and i cant help think he may be doing it for the clintons as a perot move for them.


23 posted on 07/24/2015 11:00:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Interesting how all the lefty news outlets keep pushing this story. This is, of course, playing right into Trump’s hands. The GOPe is threatening him with special debate and running rules ( as a contender, must sign a pledge to support the eventual nominee, etc.) Trump (and anybody else with half a brain) knows a third party race would split the Republican vote and put a Clinton in the White House...as it did before with Perot. The GOPe knows that, too. They threaten Trump with special rules, he counterattacks threatening to destroy them with a third party run. He also knows the lefty media would love this, so he says it is “not ruled out” signaling to the left it is going to happen. The lefty news media then threatens the GOPe daily with these stories, which is exactly Trump’s plan. Trump is playing the lefties better than the democrats ever did. Fun to watch a marketing pro do his magic.


28 posted on 07/25/2015 5:06:24 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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Funny,

He also told us he only wanted to run as a Republican. Trump is already changing his tone...

And we think we can trust him?


32 posted on 07/25/2015 5:59:54 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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