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To: rlmorel

New York Times reporter R.W. Apple Jr reported on July 31, 1967 that Captain John J. Beling the Forrestal’s commanding officer stated:

“For some unknown reason a plane parked near the carrier’s island midway up the 1045 ft flight deck experienced an EXTREME WET START”.

McStain’s plane was struck by the Zuni missile. You do understand that the Zuni is a heat seeker right?

McCain was notorious for wet starts and had only recently been reprimanded for doing it previously. He was probably hustled voff the ship before the crew could find him and throw him overboard.


96 posted on 08/02/2017 7:45:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Stop. Stop. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are so uninformed on the subject that you don’t realize what you sound like. I am trying to say this without insulting you.

First, as I have stated before, a wet start is what it implies...no flame or heat. A wet start is a cloud of jet fuel being blown out the tailpipe of the plane by compressed air being delivered by a huffer. If you wanted to, you could hold your breath, cover your eyes and walk into the cloud and exit unharmed except for being covered in jet fuel. Anyone who had any experience with jet engines knows this, Georgia Girl 2, and to hear someone state that a wet start was the cause of the fire on the USS Forrestal is to violate the saying “Better to be silent and have people think you are a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”

Secondly, the tail pipe of McCain’s plane was pointing over the port quarter of the USS Forrestal, out to sea. There was absolutely nothing behind it, that even if the “wet start” had progressed to a “hot start”, nothing could have been harmed by it.

Thirdly, the Zuni was an unguided rocket. It is NOT a “heat seeker”, but that would’t have made any difference. If you don’t believe me, you can look it up in hundreds of places on the Internet. In the last ten years, they tried to retrofit Zuni rockets with laser guidance, but in 1967 it was an unguided missile. Point and shoot.

Georgia Girl 2, you seem like a nice person from some of your unrelated posts. Please take my advice. Stop clinging to this. It does you a great disservice to buy into this as you attempt to spread the lie.

Trust me. I know what I am talking about here.


98 posted on 08/02/2017 1:47:22 PM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I was not in the Navy and I do not know how to fly an airplane.

On the other hand, I read a bit and I watch people.

McCain is unquestionably a dysfunctional human being and he has deep rooted, long standing personality issues. He is a freaking nut job. .

Almost certainly, none of the Posters on this 2 year old thread were aboard the Forestall when the 131+ died because of an accident.

They were not there, nor were you or I. Regarding half century old images or reading reports which ultimately were funneled through the Chain of Command where McCain had influence and supporters is not exactly cause for dismissing the possibility that the current Senator was the catalyst for this nightmare episode.

Personally, I lean towards that he was absolutely responsible for all of it.

He got out of Dodge rather quick once the flames were dowsed. What innocent person does that?

McCain has demonstrated that he is one seriously treacherous self indulgent POS, but in the interest of fairness, he may be falsely accused.

FR protocol causes me to refrain from colorful language out here, but I say this, I know people, and McCain is a Sociopath.

This impossibly huge Ass has just condemned my children and theirs to a system that will most certainly not serve them well even as he procures care simultaneously that is going to be denied soon to virtually all of us.

I totally believe the testimony of men who saw this asshole up close while he was under stress and even void of stress.

They can talk their Navy expertise for the next several years.

Consider the man himself and the truth will become obvious.

Colorful language here withheld.

101 posted on 08/02/2017 2:40:49 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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