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To: TangibleDisgust; Rockingham

You are under the mistaken MSM promoted notion
that 100% of California is liberal. If the state
was split then conservatism would be the winner.
If you don’t believe me then do a little research
and you will see that the opposition to the
formation of the state of Jefferson comes from the
Democrats. You might also check out a red/blue
presidential election map. You will see a lot of
coastal blue and inland red. If you spent time in
Central Valley or Sierra Nevada small towns you
would meet some regular,good old conservative
American people.


35 posted on 07/23/2015 8:42:25 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Sivad

i lived in CA from 1992-2003. i am well aware of the political makeup of the state. notice in my comments, i made no mention of party affiliation. the problem is that the other states would have their political power diluted if CA goes from 1 state to 6 (i.e. 2 senators to 12) that’s a tough sell and something i would also be 100% against.


36 posted on 07/23/2015 9:00:37 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: Sivad
I am under no such misapprehensions about California. I have conservative relatives there who tout their state's conservative areas, along with other relatives -- in San Francisco -- who glory in California's liberalism. Yet there can be no doubt that the overall balance in California has tipped heavily liberal and that many formerly conservative areas have been overrun due to massive immigration.

As for how states created after California was split would tend to vote, in the short run at least, that would depend on where the lines were drawn and how many such states were created. Since California is currently dominated by liberals, I am hard put to be optimistic that they would permit a net weakening of their national political strength.

Of course, any conservative states created out of California could reasonably expect to prosper after liberation from the immense fiscal drag of the free-spending areas of the state. As in most other liberal states, the fiscal reality of state politics is that conservatives are heavily over taxed in order to finance the projects of their liberal political masters. From that perspective, I easily understand how California's hard-working Germans want to be liberated from supporting their free-spending, layabout Greeks.

43 posted on 07/23/2015 12:39:31 PM PDT by Rockingham
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