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1 posted on 07/20/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by Kevin C
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Why was Donald Trump asked about his relationship with God? He answers the question honestly, he said no, he had not asked for forgiveness from God. A good number of people would say they had just to be expedient. I expect that Trump has his spiritual life worked out with God and that what I would think of as asking for forgiveness is different from his approach to the same situation. I accept that Trump is a Christian and loves God and beyond that it is none of my business what arrangement he and God have with his spiritual self.


72 posted on 07/20/2015 12:53:42 PM PDT by mountainfolk
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I actually think his approach is refreshing. At least he understands that he’s accountable - for everything.

You contrast that with folks that understand they are forgiven and act like it by continuing to act like a bull in a china shop, judging others for their imperfections - secure in the knowledge they are saved.

He and God will have some sort of reckoning before long on the issue of asking Him for forgiveness. I don’t think God needs me to help Donald Trump with that.

I’ll take a guy who tries to reckon his own actions and do right by everyone he meets over a Christian who acts like he’s got unlimited mulligans every day - twice on Sunday.


75 posted on 07/20/2015 12:56:21 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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Trump is respectful of God's time and is merely waiting for one big forgiveness request at a later time rather than all those pious believers who ask every week.

Wonder why they have to ask so often?

77 posted on 07/20/2015 12:59:51 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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I read Norman Vincent Peale's The Power of Positive Thinking years ago. That book drove me nuts, but I certainly can see bits of his philosophy in the way Trump acts. I DID NOT know Peale was Presbyterian - seems a bit of a disconnect to me. I'm Presbyterian, too. Hard to believe he could sit through years of sermons and not understand the need for forgiveness. That is pretty basic.
81 posted on 07/20/2015 1:07:01 PM PDT by RatRipper
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He's being honest; it's hard not to appreciate that, but this nation has been fulfilling the desires of Satan for so long, we need the holiest man we can find, and while no man who is actually holy will ever say that he is....

I'm going to stick with my original pick:

Bobby Jindal 2016.
82 posted on 07/20/2015 1:07:06 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Trump’s father’s middle name was Christ? The Donald figures he’s part of the family.


83 posted on 07/20/2015 1:08:55 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I saw this post on another (linked) thread, about this subject. I found this answer to be quiet humbling, for me, and I agree with it, completely. I couldn’t say it better, so I copied onto this thread. I hope that’s okay, Tucker39...


“I don’t think I’ve ever asked God for forgiveness....(formally).”

1st Corinthians 11:25 & 26 “....do this in remembrance of me. For as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes back.”

And The Donald said, “Every time I drink the little thing of wine, and eat the little cracker I feel cleansed...”

He could have lied. He could have parsed some BS Clintonesque story. He could have half-truth finnessed it. But he didn’t. He manned up and admitted that he’d never formally asked God for forgiveness....but that he took communion as often as possible, and felt cleansed when he did it.

Yes, there is the subsequent verse regarding partaking of the elements “unworthily”. But the context surely refers to Paul’s scolding the Corinthians for corrupting the communion service into a gluttonous drinking “tie one on” occasion.

Would I prefer that Trump have had an eye popping testimony of getting saved when God personally appeared to him and.....fill in the blanks. But God hasn’t. And Trump opened a window and let us look into his soul. What I saw was a sinner just like me, who is walking the strait and narrow the best he can, ACCORDING TO THE TEACHING HE’S HAD THROUGH LIFE. And God isn’t finished with Trump. In fact, I think God’s actually just getting started with him.

35 posted on 07/19/2015 4:05:57 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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98 posted on 07/20/2015 1:46:36 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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Tax collector and the Pharisee.

We have too many “holier than thou” politicians.
You can criticize this politician because of X reason.


99 posted on 07/20/2015 1:47:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The current POTUS doesn't ask for forgiveness because one Deity does not seek forgiveness from another..
102 posted on 07/20/2015 1:54:48 PM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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God gave me a good brain, and a strong body.
It is up to me to use those gifts from God.
God has no obligation to carry my burdens.
I have prayed a lot for success during my life.
But I never begged God to solve my problems.
If I did something stupid, it is not God’s fault.
It is my own fault for not using my brain.


108 posted on 07/20/2015 2:08:03 PM PDT by entropy12 (Audi Murphy & Alvin York are REAL war heroes for extraordinary bravery. McCain just a bad pilot.)
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Good for Trump. At least he didn’t pull out a five pound Bible and say “Vote for me. I’m a Christian.” I remember several past presidents who did that.


109 posted on 07/20/2015 2:11:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll never vote for another rino and it sickens me that I voted for McCain.)
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Well Presbyterian Eucharistic liturgy is quite short on seeking forgiveness of sin, save for their use of The Lord’s Prayer:

“...and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors....”

One would guess Trump never meant it, or wasn’t listening to himself.


113 posted on 07/20/2015 2:17:18 PM PDT by onedoug
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Not exactly what he said


114 posted on 07/20/2015 2:17:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (Mark Levin.....I love him...but he is ignorant of Dixie)
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The Lord’s Prayer covers it. All Christian services receit don’t they?


124 posted on 07/20/2015 3:17:51 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberal's lie about everything all the time)
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So given that what the above say is accurate, Trump is not really a Christian. He goes through the motions but has no faith??? This is not good for Trump.


132 posted on 07/20/2015 7:03:11 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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This thread is a case study on why we’re in the incredible mess we’re in.


134 posted on 07/21/2015 5:49:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (McCain was a war hero? So was Benedict Arnold.)
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