Posted on 07/20/2015 5:07:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
By the pen and the phone.
The President is not going quietly into that good night and lame duck isn’t on the menu as far as he’s concerned. Barack Obama’s next fourth quarter play seems to be an attempt to go around congress and restrict the Second Amendment rights of millions of Americans based on data in the Social Security system. Specifically, if you are someone collecting benefits who has their payments handled by another family member or third party, you could find your information being turned over to the feds and your gun rights suspended. (From Fox News)
The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.
The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.
The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to “marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security, the LA Times reported.
So the basic assumption here is that if you are a Social Security recipient (read: an old person) and someone else handles the receipt and disbursement of your benefits then you must be … what? Incompetent? On the list of disqualifiers being cited here that seems to be the only one which would come close to applying. And based on that – even if there’s never been any question raised about you and you’ve never been so much as accused of a crime – your constitutional rights would be suspended. Well, that certainly sounds fair, doesn’t it?
This sounds eerily similar to certain provisions of New York’s detestable SAFE Act, where large swaths of people are lumped together in a generalized category and then disarmed. In New York, anyone who has ever sought therapy or been issued a prescription drug for “depression” can find themselves on a similar list and are then faced with the daunting and expensive prospect of going to court to prove they are not crazy. In this case, one assumes that a senior citizen might be able to go to court and attempt to prove that they’re not incompetent, but how many Social Security recipients can afford that?
We’re not talking about a small number of people here, either. There are currently more than 4 million people in the United States who fall into that category. I’m sure it’s possible that some of these people are truly mentally impaired, but wouldn’t their family, guardians or medical professionals be in the best position to make such a judgement? Or shouldn’t someone at least have to file some sort of complaint along those lines to have the situation investigated before sending in the troopers to collect their weapons?
These sorts of sweeping, blanket classifications serve only one purpose… to provide another back door method to confiscate guns. And the assumption they make about senior citizens is as insulting as it is outrageously contrary to the Constitution. But once again our hands may wind up being tied because the President is using a new interpretation of existing law and mining into a database completely unrelated to law enforcement to find a way to eliminate gun rights. Sounds to me like it would take a veto-proof act of Congress to modify the laws to prevent this and that’s unlikely to happen.
Clearly Obama is not going to go down without a fight. Let’s hope he gets one on this move.
It may comme to pass that you are right. Obamacare will create a large class of people with nothing left to lose. If you are 79 and denied an effective cancer treatment because of your age, you may be looking for someone who was responsible to take with you.
Just sayin'.
Since they are the political party that supports gun control, why not suggest that membership registration with the Democrats means that they reject private gun ownership, so have to turn in their guns?
It would be fairly easy to carry out. The state parties just give a simple poll to their members with just two questions:
1) Do you own guns?
2) Do you believe that government should regulate guns?
If they answer “yes” to both questions, then party employees should go to their homes, ask them to surrender their guns and ammunition, which will then be dropped off with their local police department, for resale or disposal, depending on local policy.
Once this is done, then their names would be put on the “do not sell guns to these people” list.
It would finally give them what they want, without imposing on the rights of any other citizen.
Take away the guns of an old person so the young thugs can kill, rape and rob them without a worry.
Because old people home alone are a danger to society should they shoot someone breaking into their homes
I must not be paying attention. Exactly how many old geezers have gone postal at the local Social Security Office? Who would think that would have made the news, attacking a liberal shrine like that.
Who is it that is on the march against our Free Republic:
The Progressive Liberal Democrat/Rino Communist Uni-Party... that’s who and we the people sit and let them have their way.
We the people have the Constitutional Authority to DEPOSE a tyrannical gov’t, WE FAIL!
Every special interest group in the country are in the streets whining about stupid things and getting what they want, We The People need to learn how to be a squeaky wheel and it is in the streets where everyone hears and responds to demands, We the people have a righteous morale demand; only we can restore our Constitutional Free Republic... again we FAIL!
Congress would have to approve that, wouldn’t they? Another reason to throw out those in there as soon as possible.
LOL
,,,,,,, nonsense ,,, seniors are not now nor ever will be even remotely close to the threat posed by the “YOUNG” black yutes in the hood . Go take their guns away and see what happens .
just sayin’,,,,,,,,,,
Ah, but the YBYITH’s responeses are largely random and not aimed at those in power. The seniors know how to cut off the head of the snake.
just sayin’....... ;o)
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