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Jeb Bush shaped by troubled Phillips Academy years (Vietnam conscientious objector?)
Boston Globe ^ | 7/18/15 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 07/18/2015 2:16:08 PM PDT by jimbo123

In the fall of 1967, when a 14-year-old Texan named John Ellis Bush arrived on the bucolic campus of Phillips Academy in Andover, great expectations preceded him.

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A few weeks after graduation, on July 16, 1971, Bush filled out an index card on which he registered for the draft. (A copy of the card was obtained by the Globe under the Freedom of Information Act.) On the line requesting a contact, he listed his father, who continued to serve as Nixon’s United Nations ambassador: “Amb. George H. W. Bush, Waldorf Towers . . . New York City.”

Bush received a draft number of 26 on a calendar-based scale that went to 365, earning him a “1A” classification that meant he probably would have been drafted if the war continued at full pace.

But he avoided such a fate because the war was winding down — a fact for which some credit was due those of his generation who participated in protests that he had refused to join.

Bush’s mother, Barbara Bush, once told United Press International that Jeb had considered declaring himself a conscientious objector, adding that the family would have backed such a decision.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; florida; jebbush; paultardation; paultardnoisemachine; randpaulnoisemachine; randsconcerntrolls; vietnam
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1 posted on 07/18/2015 2:16:08 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Neither of Bush’s two draft-age sons went to Vietnam, and one, Jeb, considered filing for conscientious-objector status to avoid the war, according to Barbara Bush.

She said in an interview with United Press International in 1984 that her husband told Jeb, “Whatever you decide . . . I will back you 100 percent.” Jeb eventually decided to submit to the draft, she said.

http://articles.philly.com/1992-10-11/news/26000431_1_son-jeb-war-policy-jeb-bush


2 posted on 07/18/2015 2:17:36 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Interesting that GHW Bush would “back his draft dodging sons 100 percent” all the while voting to send other peoples’ sons to the same war with a no-win strategy. This is bipartisan; I remember the horrendous incompetent liar Robert McNamara presiding over a strategy that needlessly killed 50,000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese while his own draft dodging son hosted antiwar protesters come to Washington to demonstrate against his old man’s war in the family basement.


3 posted on 07/18/2015 2:20:23 PM PDT by laconic
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To: jimbo123

Yet no one cared about Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. Or the fact that “Army photojournalist” Al Gore had four heavily-armed, hand-picked soldier bodyguards with him at all times for his long four month tour in Vietnam?


4 posted on 07/18/2015 2:23:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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So the left blames the protesters because Bush wasn’t drafted?

Even if he was drafted it would have been late 71, early 72 before he reported for Basic and AIT.

That would have been pushing the summer of 1972 and the last combat troops were out August 1972.

There were still troops in VN but they were doing stuff no rookie draftie would be assigned to.


5 posted on 07/18/2015 2:23:29 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: laconic

Let me get this straight. Our “betters” can have us murdered at their whim.


6 posted on 07/18/2015 2:23:45 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: laconic

That’s the Elite’s M.O. My attitude is, you want war? Fine. Your kids MUST go.


7 posted on 07/18/2015 2:31:54 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: hal ogen

In my lifetime there have been five Presidents who really seemed to care about what happened to US troops who fight for this country. Truman, Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower and JFK. The rest? Not really in my view. One thing about the draft, if it is truly universal and not filled with deferments for school, marriage, politicians’ sons, etc., then it probably would make the politicians a bit less likely to commit to poorly thought out adventures abroad.


8 posted on 07/18/2015 2:35:30 PM PDT by laconic
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To: jimbo123

Is this story designed to endear him to the voters he’s appealing to, Democrats?

¡Yeb! NEVER !


9 posted on 07/18/2015 2:35:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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"Vietnam conscientious objector?"

No, he wasn't. He registered for the draft, and the draft ended before he was called up. When you swear to tell the truth, you swear to tell " the whole truth". It's a lie to tell only part of the truth.

10 posted on 07/18/2015 2:36:32 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: jimbo123

I am no Jebite, but this story seems like crap. I could only take so much before it seemed like a tedious attempt at a second rate hit piece. Is it worth a full read?


11 posted on 07/18/2015 2:37:11 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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I graduated HS in 71. I went to Army BCT training 2 weeks after graduation. As far as I know, nobody was drafted that graduated in 71. I could be wrong.


12 posted on 07/18/2015 2:39:51 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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Sorry but as much as I dislike Jeb Bush, I abhor these character assassinations that the MSM is now throwing at us.......
13 posted on 07/18/2015 2:42:28 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: Bruce Kurtz

Same here, had a draft number of 103 or thereabouts. Didn’t have to go and I’m glad I didn’t. Stupid war.


14 posted on 07/18/2015 2:44:32 PM PDT by refermech
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“Yet no one cared about Barack Obama”

LOL, that’s just what we needed Nam, ten year old soldiers.


15 posted on 07/18/2015 2:47:04 PM PDT by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere -- Charlie Daniels)
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To: jimbo123

While I’ve got any number of issues with Dubya, his military service during the Vietnam era isn’t one of them. Flying Century-series fighters was hardly a risk-free endeavor, if you look at the number of deaths in training and operations. Plenty of rear echelon jobs in Vietnam were much less risky, from an actuarial perspective.

Putting this as you do seems less than honest about the facts of that matter. If you want to attack Jeb on this issue, fine, but leave Dubya out of it unless you want to sound like a dishonest Lefty.


16 posted on 07/18/2015 2:47:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I’m roughly Barry’s age. I served.


17 posted on 07/18/2015 2:51:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: FreedomPoster

My uncle was in the National Guard during the Vietnam war. They did much of the stateside work that still needed doing. His was a transportation company so he spent a lot of time processing vehicles through.

I also know a guy who was regular army and spent the duration of the Korean war in Alaska guarding American military prisoners. He was no less a soldier than his brother who did go to Korea and came back a real mess.


18 posted on 07/18/2015 3:15:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: laconic
Robert McNamara was one of the most despicable and wrong-headed creeps to ever serve in a position of power and responsibility in the federal government.
19 posted on 07/18/2015 3:17:24 PM PDT by riverdawg
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As I recall, the draft effectively ended in 1971, even though the all-volunteer force was not officially in place until 1973. With the draw down in Vietnam, fewer military were needed and volunteers were sufficient after 1971 to fill the remaining slots.
20 posted on 07/18/2015 3:22:15 PM PDT by riverdawg
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