The Pope answered that himself....
Posted on 07/14/2015 5:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
What’s your point? How many Catholics left their parishes in the 1970s when the guitars came out? I now attend St. Agnes in NYC - a conservative community that meets all my needs. Many Catholics do that.
So, if I’m dying on the battlefield, I should reject the sacraments because I know the priest serving me has sins on his conscience? I should damn my soul because the priest is bad? No thank you. And St. Augustine is good enough for me.
The Pope answered that himself....
these you call “spammers.”
Sheesh...get a grip...
You read what people, particularly Catholics, are routinely called on these religion fora and you complain about ‘spammers’...?
So, if I’m dying on the battlefield, I should reject the sacraments because I know the priest serving me has sins on his conscience?
First of all, if you’re dying on a battlefield, you’d be receiving Extreme Unction, not Communion...
Secondly, I said nothing about a priest having sins on his conscience...I know it’s tough, but try and read that to which you are responding...I stated that for a Eucharist to be valid, the intention of the confecting priest must actually be to confect the proper matter with the proper form of prayer...a priest who has many sins on his conscience can still confect the eucharist as long as he rightfully intends to so do...
I’m surprised a Catholic wouldn’t know this...
In context Francis-0bama-de Blasio?
Times they are a changing...it’s a new season. Some see it.....
BUT it does depend on the INTENTIONS of the "priest "
No, it doesn’t. Why do you try to rewrite St. Augustine? What gives you permission to do that?
I support them. I was not being critical of the postings. People need to read them. It is evident that they are the only verses some Catholics ever read. I have learned so much from them. Some make me research further. Thanks go to the people who post the Bible verses.
No, it doesn’t. It is God’s intention not the priest’s. This is basic to Catholic theology.
>>Times they are a changing...it’s a new season. Some see it.....
I agree. But the signs are easy to misread. Many people think that the safe road is to separate from the the imperfect church, but its like watching some horror movie where everyone splits up to be picked off one by one and the people in the audience are saying, “What a bunch of idiots. They should have stayed together!”
Don’t be stupid. Extreme Unction (the final rites) includes Holy Communion if possible. How many angels do YOU count on a pin?
I was there when my dad received Extreme Unction. He took the Host on his tongue.
The most important thing is asking forgiveness of sins and being born again. If people do not do that, then nothing else matters.
Guitars are not moral issues or major blatant sin.
Guitars are not molesting boys the night before doing a mass.
Well, if you don’t recognize blatant sin in Bridge Over Troubled Waters during the Mass, you probably love Kinky Boots and The Book of Mormon.
You just thought to put that in there, didn’t you? LOL.
No just telling you what Trent says
" "IF ONE SHALL SAY, THAT IN MINISTERS, WHILST THEY COMPLETE AND CONFER THE SACRAMENTS, THERE IS NOT REQUIRED THE INTENTION, AT LEAST OF DOING WHAT THE CHURCH DOES, LET HIM BE ACCURSED."*
* Si quis dixerit, in ministris, dum sacramenta conficiunt et conferunt, no requiri intentionem saltem faciendi quod facit ecclesia; anathema sit.— Can. xi. sess. vii., Canones et Decreta Conc. Trid., p. 43., Lipsiae, 1863. [Council of Trent, 7th Session, March 3rd, 1547,
So one can never be sure thaty have received a VALID sacrament .... Ohhh what a tangled web we weave .....
Don’t be stupid. Extreme Unction (the final rites) includes Holy Communion if possible.
You’re the one who brought up the battlefield scenario...widespread Communion on a raging war zone isn’t really possible...
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