[RnMomof7]

No, it doesn’t. Why do you try to rewrite St. Augustine? What gives you permission to do that?

No just telling you what Trent says

" "IF ONE SHALL SAY, THAT IN MINISTERS, WHILST THEY COMPLETE AND CONFER THE SACRAMENTS, THERE IS NOT REQUIRED THE INTENTION, AT LEAST OF DOING WHAT THE CHURCH DOES, LET HIM BE ACCURSED."*

* Si quis dixerit, in ministris, dum sacramenta conficiunt et conferunt, no requiri intentionem saltem faciendi quod facit ecclesia; anathema sit.— Can. xi. sess. vii., Canones et Decreta Conc. Trid., p. 43., Lipsiae, 1863. [Council of Trent, 7th Session, March 3rd, 1547,

So one can never be sure thaty have received a VALID sacrament .... Ohhh what a tangled web we weave .....

[miss marmelstein]

Apparently, unlike your denomination, there’s is no discussion about theology. My religion takes its cue from the Talmudic tradition of intellectual argument, discussion and resolution. And the end result? It is God and the Holy Ghost who speaks through the priest. That is the tradition I was taught and what I answer to. I do not take Communion from lay people - a heresy. Something your religion would probably know something about I would imagine.