Posted on 07/12/2015 9:09:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me. George Orwell
Excerpted from Daniel Greenfields piece at Sultan Knish: There comes a time when every conservative thinker tries to find some common ground with the left in some area. Today its criminal rights and the headlines have Rand Paul denouncing the racist justice system while Grover Norquist and the Koch Brothers join with the left to back their reforms. As usually happens, the conservatives or libertarians turn out to be the useful idiots of the left.
Liberals have a long history of being the lefts useful idiots. Its only fair that libertarians get a turn.
Republicans are still trying to figure out a truce on gay marriage. They retreated to civil unions, then accepted a full defeat on gay marriage and then acted baffled when Christian bakery owners were dragged into court for refusing to participate in gay weddings. When the left insisted that gay marriage was a civil rights issue, they refused to take them at their word.
Now theyre wondering how an accommodation can be made with tranny rights. A brief look back at gay rights will show that the only possible accommodation is one in which men in dresses have a legal right to use the ladies room and every single closed female space and event. And yes, that means your business will be shut down if you object to Steve using the female locker room.
After a few skirmishes, some fundraising and angry letters, the accommodationists will find ways to accommodate that and we can look forward to conservative activists eagerly crowing about the first gay Republican presidential candidate around say, 2024, and the first Republican man in a dress in the Senate around the same time.
Of course by then it will be something else. Maybe pedophiles. Gay rights activists dont like the analogy, but their movement and its assorted allies, particularly in Europes Green parties, have a long history of advocating it. The same pop culture methods that were used to sell gay rights and Bruce Jenner can easily be flipped around to sell NAMBLA.
By 2024, the Republican gay and tranny candidates will be dismissed as tokens while the media oohs and aahs over a vocal and charismatic campaigner for some other love that dare not speak its name.
And thats the point. It has always been the point.
The left does not care about gay rights. If you doubt that, consider how many of the lefts favorite Muslim countries have gay rights. The left has recently divided its campaign passions between gay marriage and defending Iran. Iran denies the existence of gays and hangs them where it finds them.
The USSR treated homosexuality as a crime even while it was recruiting gay men as spies in the West. Cuba, the darling of the American left, hated both gays and blacks. The ACLU backed the police states of Communism. If the left supports an enemy nation, the odds are excellent that it is also a violently bigoted place that makes a KKK rally look like a hippie hangout.
To understand the left, you need to remember that it does not care about 99 percent of the things it claims to care about. Name a leftist cause and then find a Communist country that actually practiced it. Labor unions? Outlawed. Environmentalism? Chernobyl. The left fights all sorts of social and political battles not because it believes in them, but to radicalize, disrupt and take power.
The left does not care about social justice. It cares about power.
That is why no truce is possible with the left. Not on social issues. Not on any issues.
The left is a drunk in a bar trying to pick a fight with you. Trying to convince him that you didnt disrespect him, put something in his beer to make him dizzy or make his feet so heavy wont work. Theres no agree to disagree possible here. Hes picking a fight with you because he wants a fight.
The left does not care about Bruce Jenner. It does not care about gay rights, equal pay, police brutality or even slavery. Its activists care about those things a great deal right now, but they could easily be persuaded tomorrow to be outraged by telephone poles, shredded wheat or people in green sweaters.
They care mainly about emotional venting and exercising power over others. Its the same phenomenon witnessed during the Salem Witch Trials, the French Revolution or any other mob scene. Except the individual elements of the mob are on social media and have a hashtag.
The outraged social justice warrior was laughing at tranny jokes a few years ago. Now hes ready to kill over minor verbal missteps. A few years from now hell be laughing at them again.
Theres a long human history to such atrocities, to mobs whipping themselves up into spasms of manufactured outrage, subsuming their own doubts, confusion and unhappiness into the cause.
The cause is progress, but the real cause is the power of its enforcers to vent their unhappiness and destructive impulses on everyone else under the guise of reform.
You cant find common ground with the left because it is an activist machine dedicated to destroy common ground, not only with the right, but even with its own allies on the left. Progress turns what was once progressive into what is reactionary. And what was reactionary into what is progressive.
These changes have the mad logic of a byzantine ideology behind them, but to the ordinary person their definition of progress seems entirely random.
A Socialist a century ago considered factories progressive instruments of the future and men in dresses a decadent reactionary behavior. Now factories are reactionary pollution machines of globalization and men in dresses are an oppressed victim group who have transcended biology with the power of their minds.
Republicans, conservatives, libertarians and other class enemies cannot possibly progress enough to be acceptable to the left because it identifies progress with political conformity. A tolerant and progressive Republican is a contradiction in terms.
If he were truly tolerant and progressive, he wouldnt be a Republican.
The left will destroy the things you care about, because you care about them. It will destroy them because that gives them power over you. It will destroy them because these things stand in the way of its power. It will destroy them because a good deal of its militant activists need things to destroy and if they cant attack you, theyll turn on the left in a frenzy of ideologically incestuous purges.
The lefts social justice program is really a wave of these purges which force their own people to hurry up and conform to whatever the Party dictated this week. Examples are made out of laggards on social media to encourage the rest to stop thinking and start marching in line. As Orwell knew well, these shifts select for mindless ideological zombies while silencing critical thinkers.
Yesterday we were against fighting Hitler. Today were for it. Retroactively, we were always at war with Oceania. Retroactively, Bruce Jenner was always a woman. Retroactively, Obama was always right about Iraq, even when he appeared to be making the wrong decisions.
These changes are a test of reason. If you can reason, you fail. If you can Doublethink, you pass.
The constant shifts create their own version of future shock. They leave people baffled and uncertain. Society no longer seems to resemble what they knew, even though the real society of men and women has not really changed much, only the medias presentation of it has. But a beaten down mass of ordinary people now imagines that the country is filled with gay men and trannies. They accept that what they thought was common sense no longer applies and that its someone elses country now.
And that is the prize that the left dearly wants. Surrender. Keep reading
In other words, just the latest way of getting a group of people to "suspend disbelief," in our high-tech, sensory-overload culture.
I have to disagree with the basic premise. I’m a tea party conservative, hard core constitutionalist. Being of a philosophical bent, one can recognize when ideas are clear or murky. For example, one of the drums libs love to pound is “Freedom”. ....Free at last, thank God almighty, free at last.
Conservatives pound the Liberty drum. Though there are different perspectives, I offer that Liberty and Freedom are two sides of the same coin.
I posed this question to a liberal, and she really did not have a good answer and very few will. You can kick off the discussion by asking Freedom from what? Liberty from what?
Libs and conservatives have book ended ideas of tyranny; respectively corporate tyranny, and governmental tyranny, and they do most certainly overlap.
So, there are places of agreement on fundamentally important ideas. But they get screwed up with emotion and poorly developed thinking.
Bookmark.
The French Revolutionaries co-opted “liberty” for their own malevolent purposes.
Pat Dollard is 100% correct.
There is no such thing as “middle ground” with leftists. They demand not that you compromise, because to them, compromise is only one more step to total capitulation.
They understand that, but we don’t.
There comes a time when every conservative thinker tries to find some common ground with the left in some area.Every conservative thinker? No. Those who call themselves conservative thinker(s) who do so are not conservative. There is no fellowship between light and darkness.
My wife made a comment to me yesterday about Bastille Day, and some celebration for it.
I said something like “Oh. Bastille Day, the day where the mob took over, and turned into a bloodthirsty, vengeful, irrational Lord of The Flies rabble that ate itself beginning at its own tail? THAT Bastille Day that someone wants to celebrate?”
She had no idea what I was talking about.
Those you refer to as “we” who do not understand that may not be part of “us”.
Goodness. As bad as history teaching had gotten in the 80s in high school, they were still teaching about the reign of terror in France back then.
said something like Oh. Bastille Day, the day where the mob took over, and turned into a bloodthirsty, vengeful, irrational Lord of The Flies rabble that ate itself beginning at its own tail? THAT Bastille Day that someone wants to celebrate?
She had no idea what I was talking about.
I’ve said the same thing and gotten the same reactions.
Next time around we’ll be closer to the French Revolution than the American War of Independence, though.
True. I have reached the point where I no longer try to allow for compromise.
Compromising with evil is still evil. And it is worse, because when you officially compromise, you are not only aware of it, you are lending it creedence, and credibility by co-existing with it.
It is what liberals do. They take a lie, a black lie, and declare it as fact, and build everything, huge edifices of liberalism, on top of that lie.
And us, as conservatives, have made the fundamental mistake of accepting their false premises and compromising with them.
That is true. Sigh.
I agree. And that scares the hell out of me.
That about sums up the whole of human history. The author is right but I think we have all seen similar articles before. Unfortunately, as much as they are on the mark, they do little to affect a change to stop the tyranny. It's a great way of venting, as is commenting, but of little value.
I made a recent post in another article suggesting controlled destruction to thwart the left. I said the methods would involve sacrifice. I did not receive a single inquiry, or comment other than one agreement that we may have passed the point of no return.
It is understandable we like to vent because it is safe. I even read a comment that after the Confederate Memorials are destroyed, the WWII memorials would be next, and then we will really be mad. I could only laugh, and cry.
I see I made the same mistake with “we” and “us” in the post at #12.
I guess I have not come to the acceptance that we have a major fracture that presents conservatives with a real problem.
I think there are many “conservatives” who classify themselves as such because they don’t want to accept various tenets of liberalism. The problem is, they are weak enough that if push came to shove, and they had to make hard choices, they would side with the liberals on various things overall.
Right has no interest in wrong. Decency has no interest in evil. Compromise means right loses. Either the devil reigns or truth and decency reigns. At this point in time evil seems to be in the lead.
This article is incorrect. While I would argue that the underlying philosophies of the fascist left and the liberty loving right are irreconcilable, individuals can be swayed and convinced and can find a third way. In actuality, if you read what the left is talking about and is concerned about, its oddly reminiscent of what the right is concerned about as well.
Really this type of article accomplishes nothing other than try to pigeonhole people into easily identified and easily controlled plantations. The message to conservatives is “You can’t talk to those leftists because they’e eeeeevil.” The same game is being played on the left side of the field: “you can’t talk to those conservatives because they’r eeeeeeevil.”
Ask yourself who benefits from that?
The issue is never the issue. Believe it was Horowitz who pointed that out. He was one of them at one time. Have given up debating them myself. Time to laugh because you know, the issue is never the issue. Of course we have their enablers in the GOPe who understand the issue is not the issue, but they are down with that dude.
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