Posted on 07/12/2015 9:09:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
In other words, just the latest way of getting a group of people to "suspend disbelief," in our high-tech, sensory-overload culture.
I have to disagree with the basic premise. I’m a tea party conservative, hard core constitutionalist. Being of a philosophical bent, one can recognize when ideas are clear or murky. For example, one of the drums libs love to pound is “Freedom”. ....Free at last, thank God almighty, free at last.
Conservatives pound the Liberty drum. Though there are different perspectives, I offer that Liberty and Freedom are two sides of the same coin.
I posed this question to a liberal, and she really did not have a good answer and very few will. You can kick off the discussion by asking Freedom from what? Liberty from what?
Libs and conservatives have book ended ideas of tyranny; respectively corporate tyranny, and governmental tyranny, and they do most certainly overlap.
So, there are places of agreement on fundamentally important ideas. But they get screwed up with emotion and poorly developed thinking.
Bookmark.
The French Revolutionaries co-opted “liberty” for their own malevolent purposes.
Pat Dollard is 100% correct.
There is no such thing as “middle ground” with leftists. They demand not that you compromise, because to them, compromise is only one more step to total capitulation.
They understand that, but we don’t.
There comes a time when every conservative thinker tries to find some common ground with the left in some area. …Every conservative thinker? No. Those who call themselves “conservative thinker(s)” who do so are not conservative. There is no fellowship between light and darkness.
My wife made a comment to me yesterday about Bastille Day, and some celebration for it.
I said something like “Oh. Bastille Day, the day where the mob took over, and turned into a bloodthirsty, vengeful, irrational Lord of The Flies rabble that ate itself beginning at its own tail? THAT Bastille Day that someone wants to celebrate?”
She had no idea what I was talking about.
Those you refer to as “we” who do not understand that may not be part of “us”.
Goodness. As bad as history teaching had gotten in the 80s in high school, they were still teaching about the reign of terror in France back then.
said something like “Oh. Bastille Day, the day where the mob took over, and turned into a bloodthirsty, vengeful, irrational Lord of The Flies rabble that ate itself beginning at its own tail? THAT Bastille Day that someone wants to celebrate?”
She had no idea what I was talking about.
I’ve said the same thing and gotten the same reactions.
Next time around we’ll be closer to the French Revolution than the American War of Independence, though.
True. I have reached the point where I no longer try to allow for compromise.
Compromising with evil is still evil. And it is worse, because when you officially compromise, you are not only aware of it, you are lending it creedence, and credibility by co-existing with it.
It is what liberals do. They take a lie, a black lie, and declare it as fact, and build everything, huge edifices of liberalism, on top of that lie.
And us, as conservatives, have made the fundamental mistake of accepting their false premises and compromising with them.
That is true. Sigh.
I agree. And that scares the hell out of me.
That about sums up the whole of human history. The author is right but I think we have all seen similar articles before. Unfortunately, as much as they are on the mark, they do little to affect a change to stop the tyranny. It's a great way of venting, as is commenting, but of little value.
I made a recent post in another article suggesting controlled destruction to thwart the left. I said the methods would involve sacrifice. I did not receive a single inquiry, or comment other than one agreement that we may have passed the point of no return.
It is understandable we like to vent because it is safe. I even read a comment that after the Confederate Memorials are destroyed, the WWII memorials would be next, and then we will really be mad. I could only laugh, and cry.
I see I made the same mistake with “we” and “us” in the post at #12.
I guess I have not come to the acceptance that we have a major fracture that presents conservatives with a real problem.
I think there are many “conservatives” who classify themselves as such because they don’t want to accept various tenets of liberalism. The problem is, they are weak enough that if push came to shove, and they had to make hard choices, they would side with the liberals on various things overall.
Right has no interest in wrong. Decency has no interest in evil. Compromise means right loses. Either the devil reigns or truth and decency reigns. At this point in time evil seems to be in the lead.
This article is incorrect. While I would argue that the underlying philosophies of the fascist left and the liberty loving right are irreconcilable, individuals can be swayed and convinced and can find a third way. In actuality, if you read what the left is talking about and is concerned about, its oddly reminiscent of what the right is concerned about as well.
Really this type of article accomplishes nothing other than try to pigeonhole people into easily identified and easily controlled plantations. The message to conservatives is “You can’t talk to those leftists because they’e eeeeevil.” The same game is being played on the left side of the field: “you can’t talk to those conservatives because they’r eeeeeeevil.”
Ask yourself who benefits from that?
The issue is never the issue. Believe it was Horowitz who pointed that out. He was one of them at one time. Have given up debating them myself. Time to laugh because you know, the issue is never the issue. Of course we have their enablers in the GOPe who understand the issue is not the issue, but they are down with that dude.
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