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Black People Should Stop Expecting White America To 'Wake Up' To Racism
Daily Beast ^ | 07.11.15 | John McWhorter

Posted on 07/12/2015 8:59:07 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

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To: Gaffer

Well said Yoda!


61 posted on 07/12/2015 10:24:41 AM PDT by stillfree?
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To: SauronOfMordor

Same of folks of a darker skin color who worked hard for what they own, why should they also be under an obligation to care as well, they need to stop depending on others, and learn to be self-sufficient.


62 posted on 07/12/2015 10:25:24 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: Second Amendment First

That 4 point plan sounds great to me. I am not up-to-speed on the pedagogy in point 2, but “reading is fundamental” to any success in life, so whatever works works in that regard.


63 posted on 07/12/2015 10:28:19 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I hate to have to tell the Left wing racial fanatics but white people don’t wake up every morning and look in the mirror and feel bad about it. They don’t go around obsessing about race or what lousy thing they can do to a black person today. No they have to go to work and make money to pay for their lives. They have little or no time to think about blacks at all.


64 posted on 07/12/2015 10:32:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Most Americans today are wondering what the heck the race baiters are talking about.


65 posted on 07/12/2015 10:42:21 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: spodefly
That 4 point plan sounds great to me. I am not up-to-speed on the pedagogy in point 2, but “reading is fundamental” to any success in life, so whatever works works in that regard.

McWhorter starts off with a multi-paragraph attempt at "befriending the reader" in order to hook in the people who need to hear what he's saying the most: Progressives. Basically tells them exactly what they want to hear (using code words/dog whistles like "white privilege", "structural racism", etc)

Then he lays out why their "fantasy dream" is just a fantasy that's incapable of ever being realized. Followed by (FINALLY!) a four-point prescriptive plan that we can debate the merits of, but are all pretty reasonable and together have a much better chance of working than anything the Jacksons, or Sharptons or Van Joneses of the world have come up with.

So I'm willing to take this all for exactly that, and give him full credit and props for being one of the very few Progressives to actually bring something constructive to the discussion.

As a quick aside, I do find the following bit most interesting: what is the point of pretending that America will somehow learn a plangent lesson about how black people suffer from a legacy of slavery and Jim Crow and therefore merit special treatment that no other groups in America do

This is an explicit admission that one of the Progressive goals is targeted special treatment for Blacks and Blacks alone. Again, something incredibly rare for a Progressive to explicitly state. And what makes this pretty amusing is that the brick wall this notion will eventually plow into at 150mph isn't going to be white racism, but rather Hispanic and perhaps even Asian anger over double-standards.
66 posted on 07/12/2015 10:52:22 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Second Amendment First
Everyone can hate or like what the author said, but this one quote hits the Democrat objective right on the nails head.

This new Dream, seeking revolutionary change in how America works, is not only impossible, but based on the faulty assumption that black Americans are the world’s first group who can only excel under ideal conditions. We are perhaps the first people on earth taught to consider it insulting when someone suggests we try to cope with the system as it is—even when that person is black, or even the President.

If blacks got this out of their mind and culture, everything else would change. But this will not change until something truly massive changes. Jesus returns or CWII starts. And they will lose either way.
67 posted on 07/12/2015 10:52:47 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Below are the actions called for:
“1. The War on Drugs must be eliminated. It creates a black market economy that tempts underserved black men from finishing school or seeking legal employment and imprisons them for long periods, removing them from their children and all but assuring them of lowly existences afterward.”

Translation: Black men cannot resist selling drugs to make easy money, or buying drugs to get high. So we must let them take and sell drugs so they wont be criminals.

“2. We have known for decades how to teach poor black children to read: phonics-based approaches called Direct Instruction, solidly proven to work in the ’60s by Siegfried Engelmann’s Project Follow Through study. School districts claiming that poor black children be taught to read via the whole-word method, or a combination of this and phonics, should be considered perpetrators of a kind of child abuse. Children with shaky reading skills are incapable of engaging any other school subject meaningfully, with predictable life results.”

Translation: After arguing for generations that blacks and whites are the same, and calling anyone who said differently racists, we now admit that Black people are wired differently than whites so they do not learn the same way. This is just another of the endless rationales used to explain the poor performance of blacks in school.

“3. Long-Acting Reproductive Contraceptives should be given free to poor black women (and other poor ones too). It is well known that people who finish high school, hold a job, and do not have children until they are 21 and have a steady partner are almost never poor. We must make it so that more poor black women have the opportunity to follow that path. The data is in: Studies in St. Louis and Colorado have shown that these devices sharply reduce unplanned pregnancies. Also, to reject this approach as “sterilizing” these women flies in the face of the fact that the women themselves rate these devices quite favorably.”

Translation: Black women need more free stuff because they cant be expected to keep their legs closed when informed that a simple behavior change will solve a huge problem.

“4. We must revise the notion that attending a four-year college is the mark of being a legitimate American, and return to truly valuing working-class jobs. Attending four years of college is a tough, expensive, and even unappealing proposition for many poor people (as well as middle-class and rich ones). Yet poor people can, with up to two years’ training at a vocational institution, make solid livings as electricians, plumbers, hospital technicians, cable television installers, and many other jobs. Across America, we must instill a sense that vocational school—not “college” in the traditional sense—is a valued option for people who want to get beyond what they grew up in.”

Translation: Blacks cannot be expected to meet society’s standards for academic success so they must be revised.

The recipe for black success in the US is remarkably simple. 1. work hard in school and at work. 2. Stay out of trouble (no drugs, violence or arrests). Companies will beat a path to your door.


68 posted on 07/12/2015 10:54:53 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Black People Should Stop Expecting White America To 'Wake Up' To Racism

That is correct Mr. McWhorter. My sympathy card is overdrawn and expired. Yet, I do feel for blacks who have moved on and now have a middle-class lifestyle or better. Some are here on FR!

Can we ask, "What did they do to achieve such a position in life?" Let us hold them up in the light of day and say Here is another question to ask: What has the first Black here is an example.

President done for the black communities? I can tell you that he is attempting to legalize MILLIONS of alien invaders who will gladly take jobs away from...blacks. You think he would do the opposite, if he really cared.

And where are the school vouchers?

Enough for now.

69 posted on 07/12/2015 10:55:35 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Let us hold them up in the light of day and say her is an example. (oops)


70 posted on 07/12/2015 10:56:47 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: Second Amendment First
The title: that white people haven't woken up to racism?

Well, it's an odd title.

Blacks should be GLAD white America hasn't "woken up" to racism, but *when* it does, when it can no longer ignore it...there will be some hell to pay. It won't be pretty.

Their twisted logic is that whites have to make perpetual amends to blacks. That's their idea of racism acknowledgement.

The really frightening reality of racism acknowledgement is this: When whites finally do wake up, they'll do so by no longer ignoring black-on-white crimes. No longer ignoring the statistics. And they'll finally fight back and tolerate being bullied no longer.

I've had a board broken over my head, and stitches, a useless police report, the whole thing, when I was attacked by behind by two black thugs. I had been raised to trust, but Reality intervened. Glad I'm not dead, and lived and learned.

Yes, the title of the original post must never come to pass, because *when* whites "wake up to racism" they'll realize they're the real victims, and will stop playing the part of the Punching Bag. Woe to the real racists, then!

71 posted on 07/12/2015 11:09:38 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Second Amendment First
Actually, a good article overall. Sure I disagree with him on a lot of points that are best described as Sharpton/Jackson talking points, but he's willing to leave those behind and concede it's not working for blacks and rather than waiting for whites to make the world perfect for them, which is never going to happen, they need to make their own destiny with what currently exists. Last sentence: A black identity founded on how other people think about us is a broken one indeed, and we will have more of a sense of victory in having won the game we’re in rather than insisting that for us and only us, the rules have to be rewritten.
72 posted on 07/12/2015 11:15:40 AM PDT by Qiviut (Stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the cross; lift high his royal banner, it must not suffer loss)
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To: Second Amendment First
I can think of at least one good reason why this line of thinking is going nowhere fast.

The people pushing this (liberals & black race hustlers) basically require people (whites) who are not objectively, or subjectively from their point of view, racist believe that somehow, through no fault of their own, they are BAD PEOPLE.

This is simply not going to happen. Even casual anti-black racial comments are simply not tolerated in polite white or mixed society. These same (white) people, who are being told that they are secretly BAD PEOPLE, see overtly vile statements and despicably violent actions of anti-white racism which are never condemned by the very same (liberal) people who think that whites are secret racists.

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73 posted on 07/12/2015 11:23:44 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Second Amendment First

John McWhorter seems to have “gone native” lately, mouthing foolish progressive catch-phrases as if they were undeniable truths.


74 posted on 07/12/2015 11:31:07 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Personally I did not see an issue with number 4 about alternatives to a BA degree, myself and plenty other on FR would agree in a nation like ours that college should not be the end all and that there are other options out there like the trades and the most I will have to be honest is an AS, nothing more, other than that I think you are spot on.

- Just my opinion


75 posted on 07/12/2015 11:37:43 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: Second Amendment First

I think we’ve discovered who the worst racists are. And it isn’t white conservatives.


76 posted on 07/12/2015 11:43:47 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Turns out — that was exactly the author’s point.

Don’t know why he had to hide it at the end of paragraph after paragraph of pompous drivel.


77 posted on 07/12/2015 11:49:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Second Amendment First

” It was one thing to convince America that legalized segregation and disfranchisement were wrong. However, convincing America that black people now need the dismantling of “white privilege” is too enlightened a lesson to expect a vast, heterogeneous and modestly educated populace to ever accept. “

Now that’s how you win white people over to your way of thinking.


78 posted on 07/12/2015 12:05:37 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Second Amendment First

Isn’t he that Boondocks hate cartoon author?

War on Poverty and 50 yrs of chaining blacks to government...no dads in household...no nuclear family...black male’s only positive strokes are from gang bangers or getting some girl pregnant...that’s the cause.


79 posted on 07/12/2015 12:31:35 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Ted is the ticket.)
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To: the_individual2014

“Personally I did not see an issue with number 4 about alternatives to a BA degree, myself and plenty other on FR would agree in a nation like ours that college should not be the end all and that there are other options out there like the trades and the most I will have to be honest is an AS, nothing more, other than that I think you are spot on.”

I should have been clearer. I have nothing against Community colleges, Associates degrees or trade workers. The point was why are they setting the bar different for blacks than other groups. Why not just call them successful if they stay out of jail?


80 posted on 07/12/2015 12:33:23 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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