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Trump Fans, It’s Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg's Weekly News Letter

Posted on 07/11/2015 1:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

There have been times in the past when I’ve gotten crosswise with certain segments of the conservative base and/or with the readership of National Review. And, because, like the Elephant Man, I am a not an animal but a human being, I have always had at least some self-doubt. That’s as it should be. People who share principles should not only hear each other out when they disagree; they should be able to see each other’s points and hold open the possibility that one’s opponents have the better argument.

This is not one of those times, at least not for me.

I truly, honestly, and with all my heart and mind think Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters are making a yuuuuuuge mistake. I think they are being conned and played. I feel like a guy whose brother is being taken advantage of by a grifter. I’m watching helplessly as the con artist congratulates him for taking out a third mortgage.

Anger Is Not an Argument

Now, before I go on, let me clarify a few things. I get it. The base of the party is angry. They’re angry about Obama’s lawless chicanery on immigration. They’re angry about the GOP’s patented inability to cross the street without stepping on its own d*ck and then having to apologize for it. They’re angry that the Left’s culture warriors are behaving like an invading army that shoots the survivors even after they’ve surrendered. They’re angry that Republicans have to bend over backward so as not to offend anyone, while Democrats have free rein (and at times free reign) to do and to say as they please.

Enter Trump, stage left. He makes no apologies. He’s brash. I can understand why some see him as a breath of fresh air. If you want to give him credit for starting a worthwhile debate about sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, fine. I think that argument is way overdone, but certainly reasonable enough.

Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud.

Maybe you just like him. On that, we can respectfully disagree, as there is no accounting for taste. Perhaps you just like his musk and the way it assaults your nostrils, which is fitting, given his line of cologne. Fine.

I, on the other hand, find him tedious, tacky, and trite. He’s a bore who overcompensates for his insecurities by talking about how awesome he is, often in the third person. Jonah can’t stand that.

You see the next Teddy Roosevelt and all I see is someone who talks big and carries a small schtick.

’Sup Britches?

In words George Will shall never write, this is a good moment to talk about my pants. Earlier this week, Donald Trump attacked Charles Krauthammer and me. By the way, I don’t blame Trump one bit for his hostility. I’d hate me too, if I were him. Still I do marvel at how this supposed Master of the Universe can be unnerved by such criticism. If it takes so little effort for me to set up shop in his head, by all means, let’s give him thermonuclear weapons.

Anyway, when asked about me, he said:

I’m worth a fortune. . . . I went out, I made a fortune, a big fortune, a tremendous fortune . . . bigger than people even understand. . . . Then I get called [a failure] by a guy that can’t buy a pair of pants, I get called names?

As the intern said to Bill Clinton, this puts me in a weird position. I don’t like to brag, but I’m actually quite adept at buying pants. I don’t enjoy it. But I can do it. It never occurred to me to put it in my bio or anything — “Jonah Goldberg is a senior editor of National Review, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and a successful pants-buyer” — but maybe I should.

Now, I will say that I sometimes choose not to wear pants, and not just because I’m so fond of my spaghetti-strainer codpiece (which affords me the satisfaction of telling really attractive women, “Hey, my eyes are up here. Thank you very much”). But these are my choices. If I want to identify as a pantless American, who are you to say otherwise?

More to the point, what I find so gaudy about Trump is his constant reference to the fact that he made a lot of money, and his expectation that it somehow makes him immune to criticism or means that he’s a better person than his GOP competitors, never mind yours truly.

The Trump-Pets Blare

Moreover, I find it horribly disappointing that his fans like this about him. If you met someone in real life who talked this way, you would think he’s a jerk. But somehow he’s awesome when he does it on TV?

The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he ‘tells it like it is.’ Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing.

His biggest fans disappoint in other ways as well. I marvel at how they can simultaneously despise Obama’s arrogance but revel in Trump’s. (I chuckle at all of the people who tell me he’s a heroic truth-teller for “telling it like it is” and “calling it as he sees it” but who at the same time fume at me when I tell it like it is about Trump and call it as I see it.)

But most grating of all are the people who sincerely think he should be the Republican nominee for President of the United States.

On this, I’m afraid we’re going to have to disrespectfully disagree. First of all, he’ll never be president of the United States. I won’t go into all of the reasons I think this, but a few off the top of my head: his enormous negatives, even among Republicans; the Midas’s hoard of oppo-research material that surely lurks beneath the surface; and his comments about women, which alone would turn the gender gap into a chasm. To borrow a line from Mark Steyn, a President Trump would have more ex-wives than the previous 44 presidents combined.

But my objection isn’t to the political analysis of Trump supporters. It’s their judgment of the man that stews the bowels.

The Purest RINO

​Which gets me back to the grifter thing.

I’ve written many times about how I hate the term RINO because conservatives should consider themselves Republicans in Name Only. The Republican Party is a vessel, a tool for achieving conservative ends. It’s nothing more than a team. Conservatism is different. It’s a body of ideas, beliefs, and temperaments. The amazing thing is that Trump is both a RINO and a CINO. I’m sure he has some authentic and sincere conservative views down in there somewhere. But the idea that he’s more plausibly conservative — or more loyally Republican — than Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, or any of the others is just flatly absurd. It is vastly more plausible that he is a stalking horse for his dear friend Hillary Clinton than he is a sincere conservative.

Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud. The conversation would go something like this:

Immigration: You seem to think he’s an immigration hardliner, and he’s certainly pretending to be. But why can’t you see through it? He condemned Mitt Romney as an immigration hardliner in 2012 and favored comprehensive immigration reform. He told Bill O’Reilly he was in favor of a “path to citizenship” for 30 million illegal immigrants:

Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.

Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?

Abortion: In 1999 he said, “I’m totally pro-choice. I hate it and I hate saying it. And I’m almost ashamed to say that I’m pro-choice but I am pro-choice because I think we have no choice.”

Man, it’s like he’s channeling Thomas Aquinas there.

Now he says he’s pro-life. But I’ll spare the mocking on this because at least he’s flip-flopping in the right direction, and I don’t like to second guess peoples’ professed religious convictions.

Obamacare: The man wrote in his own book and said elsewhere that he was in favor of Canadian-style socialized medicine — which would put him to the left of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and on pretty much the same page as Bernie Sanders.

Hillary: Speaking of her, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her health-care reform plan — in 2007! She attended his (most recent) wedding. He donated to her campaigns and to the Clinton Foundation. In 2008, he couldn’t get his head around the fact that Obama didn’t pick her for VP. “I’m a big fan of Hillary. She’s a terrific woman. She’s a friend of mine.”

Economics: People tout the guy’s business record. But he represents almost exactly what his supporters think he opposes. He’s a crony capitalist par excellence. He gives to whatever politician can grease the skids for his next deal — and he makes no apologies for it. He’s an eminent-domain voluptuary. He abuses bankruptcy laws like a stack of homemade get-out-of-jail-free cards.

Parlez vous Conservative?

The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he “tells it like it is.” Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing. He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”

He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”

“The people of Nebraska are for free silver, and I am for free silver,” Bryan announced. “I will look up the arguments later.” That is Trump’s approach. He’s saying what understandably angry people want to hear him say.

He reminds me a lot of Mitt Romney, at least in one respect. I always said that Romney “spoke conservatism as a second language” (a line some people ripped off, btw). That’s why Romney called himself a “severe conservative,” talked about how he “likes to fire people,” and anathematized the “47 percent.”

Trump is even less truly conservative, but he’s trying to speak in an even grubbier dialect of conservatism. And, having grown up in the tabloid politics of New York, he’s better at faking it.

Eventually, I suspect, this will be the cause of his undoing. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know about conservatism, and at some point he will say something that even his biggest fans will recognize as a damning revelation about the real man beneath the schtick. The only question is whether he implodes before or after he does permanent damage to the GOP’s chances in 2016.

The Conservative Heart

Look, these are rough times for conservatives, for reasons too lengthy, and all too familiar, to go into here. But none of our problems — demographic, political, cultural — can be solved unless conservatives take the cause of persuasion to heart. All of our problems can be fixed by convincing people to join our cause. That is what politics is about — persuading people that their interests and concerns are better addressed by coming to our side. And, given the degraded nature of our culture, I won’t deny that having a celebrity on our side has its utility. But it’s only helpful if that celebrity convinces people to switch sides. As a purely mathematical proposition, it is insane to believe that Donald Trump will convert more voters than he will repel.

For those who are interested in persuasion, I heartily recommend Arthur Brooks’s new book, The Conservative Heart (full disclosure: He’s my boss at AEI and a friend). I’ll be writing more about it in the future because I think it’s an important book. But I will say for now that it is almost a mirror image of Trump’s approach. It’s thoughtful, humble, fact- and data-driven, and informed by a deep moral case for conservatism. It won’t satisfy your desire to scream at the opposition, but it will equip you to explain to the opposition why they are wrong............


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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This man (Jonah Goldberg) says what I think...and he says it extremely well.

I do not hate Donald Trump but I would not trust him to spit.
Con is his game and conned is what his believers are.
Like a stopped watch that is right twice a day he has stumbled across a truth in the illegal immigrant situation. Not because he knows the right things to say but because he will say anything and the law of averages has allowed this feat.


201 posted on 07/11/2015 7:12:35 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Anger Is Not an Argument

It's true that anger may not be an "argument", but it can be an effective weapon -- a powerful tool to employ effectively -- to advance a position -- and argument -- particularly if the opponent is angry.

202 posted on 07/11/2015 7:12:48 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: nathanbedford

Well said! Hear, hear!

You certainly one of the best posters on Free Republic.


203 posted on 07/11/2015 7:13:24 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Iscool
How could Trump be conning us when all he is doing is confirming those things we already know...

Because that is the first step of any con artist, he wins your trust by telling you what you already know to be true.

204 posted on 07/11/2015 7:14:07 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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To: Organic Panic
Trump is addressing the elephant in the room. US citizens are sick of being pushed aside for ILLEGAL immigration. We are sick of paying for them, we are sick of seeing them treated as royalty, and we are sick of seeing politicians pander non-stop for them.

What is being ignored is that Trump goes well beyond the illegal alien issue...Trump has some pretty good pro America positions on unfair trade as well as mid-East issues...He supports Israel 100% as well...

205 posted on 07/11/2015 7:14:31 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: BobL
Yes, its getting interesting for a change .
Trump was on fire the other night trashing them .
Trump has blown up the DC elites and Media elites coronation of Hillary with Jebby being her appointed loser.

He called them both disasters over and over again and ignited a healthy firestorm that cant be put out .
Cruz is smart enough to step aside and let Trump pull back the curtain and show what utter losers both side of the uni-party really are.

Goldberg is in panic mode since his scheduled Jebby cocktail party plans are getting threatened.

206 posted on 07/11/2015 7:15:36 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Ray76

>> if he kicks RINO ass I have no objections <<

If anybody has ever qualified for the IN NAME ONLY label, it’s gotta be Trump.

Therefore I’d say he needs to start with his own ass. After he does that for a while, maybe he’ll be qualified to kick others.


207 posted on 07/11/2015 7:16:21 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: nathanbedford

And it is that desperation that is being played like a fiddle in Dixieland.

That desperation is the conservative weak point.


208 posted on 07/11/2015 7:17:45 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One can’t support Trump for speaking the truth about illegal “immigration” and still support Cruz?

I stopped reading early on after Jonah used some very crude language. Too bad.


209 posted on 07/11/2015 7:18:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nathanbedford

And like him or not he’s the only one that has taken an issue that conservatives care about and is leading the fight and winning.

Who cares if he has no sense of history or is a student of philosophy.

He’s a pragmatist. He sees today’s problems and attacks them without a lot of navel gazing.

We’re in dire straights - we need a doer right now not a thinker. No need to ponder and analyze what the problems are - they’re staring us in the face.


210 posted on 07/11/2015 7:18:39 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: RoosterRedux

LOL!

Outstanding analogy!

Trump is way more charismatic than Cruz.

Let’s hope he is for real. A LOT people think Trump is going to drop some where along the line.

If he even makes it all the way to the White House. Will he really do what he says or will it be back to Washington as usual?


211 posted on 07/11/2015 7:20:15 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: EBH

He’s not saying what I want to hear, he’s saying what I actualLy believe.

In terms of untrustworthy, I’d suggest that every single professional politician (both parties) are much more untrustworthy than Trump. They’re the ones that have effed this country up while promising that they fix it. No way in heck do they get another vote from me.


212 posted on 07/11/2015 7:21:40 AM PDT by tatown
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Three points, 1. Everybody should watch yesterday's press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsokVoqSOA8

The look on the faces of those victim's families was pure joy.

2. Trump kept the press in that room on a very short Leash. Watch the video as he does this.

3. Trump applauded the United States while at the same time respected other countries and people as shrewd negotiators. It was amazing to watch on this video.

This guy is truly masterful. Do not discount him. He's not leaving the political scene anytime soon. No matter how many Jona's come out of the wood work to complain.

213 posted on 07/11/2015 7:22:56 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: BobL
But since that isn’t happening, TRUMP OWNS THE STAGE - and it is YOUR FAULT that is the case, not our fault. We’ve been SCREAMING FOR YEARS for Republicans to address the issue, and we get laughed at and stepped on by your type of people.

You can’t do that to Trump - the only option you have is to ADDRESS THE ISSUE - or you may very well be covering his inauguration, because there are a lot of DEMOCRATS and Independents also fed up with what this country has become due to Open Borders.

What you said...And that's why Trump has become so popular politically...

214 posted on 07/11/2015 7:24:16 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: dennisw

>> For business reasons Trump has been donating to both parties <<

In other words, the end justifies the means. A good conservative principle? I think not.

Moreover, I think you have just damned Trump more effectively than all the anti-Trump comments on this thread.


215 posted on 07/11/2015 7:26:31 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: 4Liberty

God bless Trump for speaking the truth.


216 posted on 07/11/2015 7:28:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not exactly a Trump fan. That said, Trump is right. He’s turned the light on and the cockroaches are scurrying. He’s taking flak and not backing down. The only other candidate that is not backing down is Ted Cruz, and note that Trump and Cruz are not attacking each other. Could Trump be clearing a path for Cruz, even if unintentionally?
I just hope that Trump does not pull a Ross Perot.


217 posted on 07/11/2015 7:31:27 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: 4Liberty
By "pure joy," I meant pure relief that SOMEONE IS LISTENING to them & their situations. Was not intending to belittle or diminish their horrific loss.

If you watch yesterday's video, the relief and hope in the faces and postures of those families by the end of the news conference was palpable.

218 posted on 07/11/2015 7:31:36 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Conservative Heart?” That sounds so familiar. “Compassionate Conservative......” Give me a stinking break!! I think I can safely predict NO ONE will read that book. No one!!

Not surprisingly, Jonah Goldberg and the rest of the DC Republican crowd are preparing to fight the LAST war. This is, of course, a recipe for failure.

Okay, let’s stipulate that Trump is a swaggering buffoon and all his supporters fools. Yet his poll numbers steadily increase while “true conservatives” grow smaller and smaller with each passing day.

It’s a NEW day and conservatives need to adapt and learn to overcome the forces arrayed against them: A hostile news Media, a debased, electronic culture which ridicules conservatives 24/7, and a disinterested, zombie-like populace created by a diabolical Marxist education system.

Face it. We’re going to get Clinton vs. Bush unless a conservative candidate suddenly develops the charisma, the chutzpa, and the courage of a Donald Trump. Know of any?

Adapt, overcome, or go the way of the Whigs. One way or another the political featherbed in Washington DC is going to come to an end. If one looks to the horizon, the darkening storm clouds are unmistakable.


219 posted on 07/11/2015 7:33:35 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: tatown

And I am warning, that many are being duped by this huckster!

Donald Trump has spent years courting Hillary and other Dems

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-donations-democrats-hillary-clinton-119071.html#ixzz3fasBkGyg


220 posted on 07/11/2015 7:37:59 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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