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Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will go to sleep in 2030 & cause temps to drop
The Daily Mail ^ | 07/10/2015 | Mark Prigg

Posted on 07/10/2015 5:06:48 PM PDT by GraceG

The Earth could be headed for a 'mini ice age' researchers have warned.

A new study claims to have cracked predicting solar cycles - and says that between 2020 and 2030 solar cycles will cancel each other out.

This, they say, will lead to a phenomenon known as the 'Maunder minimum' - which has previously been known as a mini ice age when it hit between 1646 and 1715, even causing London's River Thames to freeze over.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1646; 1715; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; iceage; maunderminimum; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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To: Cold Heat

A 60% (or 40%) drop in input energy to the Earth is DEATH.


61 posted on 07/10/2015 7:05:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: jsanders2001

No. He doesn’t.

SS 24 has been toned down and we’re on the tail end of it. SS 25 will be less active and 26 should put us in the ‘minimum’.

This is an ancient cycle and there’s nothing we can do about it.

The sun isn’t going to burn out. (And I think that the 60% reduction is a decimal error. It should probably be .06%)


62 posted on 07/10/2015 7:12:08 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Paladin2

Most climatologists do not predict things. The describe what has happened.

For example: The average maximum temperature in July over the last 30 years has been 118, in Yuma, Arizona.

Records such at that are useful for figuring out what is likely.


63 posted on 07/10/2015 7:14:54 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Marie; All

“The sun isn’t going to burn out. (And I think that the 60% reduction is a decimal error. It should probably be .06%)”

I believe the 60% reduction in solar activity is the reduction in sunspot activity, not in total solar output!


64 posted on 07/10/2015 7:18:40 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I believe that you are correct, sir!


65 posted on 07/10/2015 7:19:42 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Dark Wing

We’re DOOOMMED again!


66 posted on 07/10/2015 7:24:42 PM PDT by Thud
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To: ExSoldier

Ping.


67 posted on 07/10/2015 7:31:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Paladin2

We have been studying the sun since man stepped out of the cave and looked at it. In more modern science we know and understand the cyclical nature that we could observe, but now with orbital observation platforms, we can see parts of it we could not see before.

What I think they have observed more clearly is the cyclical changes in the east and west hemispheres, then added that data to the north and south polar stuff we already knew. Using orbital geometry and computers they can now predict a much more complex picture of what the sun should be doing in 2030 as it relates to Earths orbital position and season at the time.. If they are correct and at worst they might be off a few months, we will endure a modern day extended minimum for a number of years..

Long enough to start rebuilding glaciers in Europe and perhaps seeing things that have not occurred in 600 years or so.

Al Gore’s Asian carp pond might freeze over...lol


68 posted on 07/10/2015 7:31:39 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Paladin2

It’s not a measurement of total energy..It’s the measurement of the effects created by sunspots and cme’s..

I don’t know what the total energy drop, averaged over time would be. Certainly not 60%. But it’s significant because it causes cooling in the same way that 1999-2001 caused warming..

I could do some looking, and see what the percentage of increase of activity in those years was measured at.. I don’t recall it exactly but it was in the vicinity of 30% or so..over the norm.

In any case if they are right, it will be pretty disruptive for those in the northern areas like Canada and Northern Europe..and Russia will have issues..especially up North..


69 posted on 07/10/2015 7:40:19 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

Make that 300 years or so...not 600


70 posted on 07/10/2015 7:41:31 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: marktwain

These guys are not predicting the weather per say...The sun is not going to cool..

This is a cyclical orbital mechanics observation that they have identified will likely affect us in 2030.

It has everything to do with what hemisphere of the sun (it rotates) will be facing us at we orbit it.

What they are saying is that the cycles will cancel each other out and the side of the sun we will be facing will be very calm and docile for a number of years...The Maunder Minimum.

I would try to explain this further but it’s way over my pay grade as to the mathematics..


71 posted on 07/10/2015 7:52:31 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: All

Valentina Zharkova is a Professor in Mathematics at Northumbria University. She has a BSc/MSc in Applied Mathematics and Astronomy, a Ph.D. in Astrophysics, certificate in project management.

https://www.northumbria.ac.uk/about-us/our-staff/z/professor-valentina-zharkova/


72 posted on 07/10/2015 8:06:58 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Farmer Dean
It’s the 10th of July and our high here in northern Ohio was 71.That’s about 20 degrees cooler than expected.I think that we could already be in trouble.

I'm beginning to wonder myself, I live in Eastern Ohio, in the Wheeling/Steubenville area but work near Pittsburgh (I used to live near Pittsburgh until Mom passed away). It is not too hot here wither but very humid and LOTS. LOTS of rain. AS you put it, it's 20 degrees cooler than we expected or at least 10 degrees cooler. I also remember cool and rainy summers back in the 1970's too but we had high sunspot numbers then. I remember shooting skip on the CB radio and talked to Mexico, Compton, CA, Texas, etc., as well as hearing Cuba and New Mexico on our old fire department frequency of 33.760 Mc.

Being a ham radio operator, I think 10 and 6 meter DX will suck, I'm bummed since I'd love to give 6 meters a whirl at some point.

Something funny is going on here too. I don't know if it is me or not but the sun seem to be more white than yellow as well.
73 posted on 07/10/2015 8:16:45 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("I wish we were back in the world of Andy Williams." - My mother, 1938-2013, RIP)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
This is the climate change we should be worried about. This might not be just a mini Ice Age. It could be the real thing. The Earth is overdue for one.

We’ll be glad to have fossil fuels to keep from freezing then and the CO2 fools can be left out in the cold.


In that case, my concern over how it will affect the amateur radio bands will be the least of our worries but the radio scientist in me is still interested for academic reasons. BTW, the last few winters have been brutal. A lot of people wonder how I make it through the ice and snow to work in a front wheel drive Hyundai. There were times I had to hole up in a local diner, they have good breakfasts while other times, I think I came close to buying the farm. I drive 92 miles a day round trip to work.
74 posted on 07/10/2015 8:23:51 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("I wish we were back in the world of Andy Williams." - My mother, 1938-2013, RIP)
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To: kevinm13

In Texas this summer they cannot even predict weather accurately 8 hours out. From no rain predicted to historic rain in 8 hours.


75 posted on 07/10/2015 9:03:44 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: PCPOET7

The AGW proponents did not properly analyze solar energetic output. They based everything on visible light. That is what happens when half wits do science.


76 posted on 07/10/2015 9:05:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Marie

> No. He doesn’t.

I’m responding to the headline. And he’s a “she”.


77 posted on 07/10/2015 9:09:52 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Nowhere Man

The sun appears quite normal recently..Winter was cold in part because the sun was in a minimum and entering a new cycle. it is well into that cycle now as the pictures show.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html


78 posted on 07/10/2015 9:10:40 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: GraceG

We’ve already been in an extended minimum for about eight years or more. Activity during the most recent maximum (2012-2013 or thereabouts) was very low and infrequent.


79 posted on 07/10/2015 9:11:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Not a radio expert, but what these researchers are talking about is a very quiet sun so without sun spots your radio should work very well.


80 posted on 07/10/2015 9:13:58 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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