Members of our statist, oppressive, tyrannical government will not be a party to an amendments convention.
Never, in any process designed create or amend a government, such as parliament in 1688, the thirteen state constitutional conventions beginning in 1776, nor the federal convention of 1787, did any people EVER set themselves up to be slaves. Go back further and you'll find that the Roman Republic amended itself often enough to last 450 years. It did so not by declaring rights on paper, but rather by setting up institutions whose natural, structural interests tended to secure the liberty of the people.
The only worthwhile amendments are therefore structural, those that cannot be ignored without formal repudiation of the constitution and de-facto establishment of a tyrant. Despite galloping tyranny and thorough corruption of every ruling (not governing) institution in DC, the faux republic of the United States will continue to hold even year elections, it will continue the House, Senate, Presidency, Judiciary, limit the president to two terms, reps to two and “senators” to six. The faux US republic will not bring back slavery, stop women or blacks over 18 years of age from voting. These are hardwired, structural aspects of our government that cannot be disregarded or lawyered away.
Given the above, how for instance could repeal of the 17th Amendment be ignored? With repeal, the internal contradiction of a constitution that acts on one of its two broad classes of members (people and states), yet denies those members representation would be cured. Power would immediately be diffused across fifty states. Say adios to anti-10th amendment lawyers seeking federal judgeships.
Here is something else: The states will send delegates to a convention. Delegates will be agents of their states with strict commissions to consider certain amendments and no more. The states will not send reps with plenary powers.
Like a homosexual drag queen who puts on makeup, a dress and high heels pretending to be a woman, what we have today is tyranny in the drag of a republic. All of our institutions in DC have been corrupted into forms that work to purposes that are opposite of their constitutional designs. Congress hardly legislates at all, while the executive and judiciary wallow in arbitrary unconstitutional lawmaking. Consider the three Scotus decisions last week. Taken together and added to eighty years of similar assaults on freedom, Scotus effectively repealed self government. If we are to reestablish free republican liberty, we must address the corruption, and the source of it is the 17th Amendment. I'll go further and say that every freeper should review Mark Levin's suggested amendments, for they would further decentralize the powers that DC has stolen from the people and our states.
It is silly to fear the outcome of an amendments convention when REAL TYRANNY IS HERE.
Never, in any process designed to create or amend a government . . .
Thank you so very much, Jacquerie, for your outstanding insights!
It bothers me that some people seem to feel that if you just "get the law right," on paper, that all will automatically be well with our Republic.
Yet even the best laws do not make the people good. As Plato pointed out over 2,000 years ago, a political society is only as good as the human material that composes it. If the people are disordered, "bad," then there really is no political solution that will make society "good."
I think this is what John Adams had in mind when he observed that the Constitution was intended for a "moral people," and no other.
Which I imagine is why left progressives of all stripes in our society today are joining in a concerted, full-scale frontal attack on Christians and Christianity, currently spearheaded by the so-called "Gay Revolution." And they will never stop....
....”Like a homosexual drag queen who puts on makeup, a dress and high heels pretending to be a woman, what we have today is tyranny in the drag of a republic. All of our institutions in DC have been corrupted into forms that work to purposes that are opposite of their constitutional designs. Congress hardly legislates at all, while the executive and judiciary wallow in arbitrary unconstitutional lawmaking”...........................”It is silly to fear the outcome of an amendments convention when... REAL TYRANNY IS HERE.”
Saying it like it is! Bravo!
....”Like a homosexual drag queen who puts on makeup, a dress and high heels pretending to be a woman, what we have today is tyranny in the drag of a republic. All of our institutions in DC have been corrupted into forms that work to purposes that are opposite of their constitutional designs. Congress hardly legislates at all, while the executive and judiciary wallow in arbitrary unconstitutional lawmaking”...........................”It is silly to fear the outcome of an amendments convention when... REAL TYRANNY IS HERE.”
Saying it like it is! Bravo!
"It is silly to fear the outcome of an amendments convention when REAL TYRANNY IS HERE."
For those who think the Article V process is too risky, I ask, "What other options do you see?"
To summarize from a previous post by GraceG:
1. Elect More Republicans - Failed due to RINO/Uni-party confluence.
2. Article V Convention of States to propose Amendments - Needed to try to take power from the federal government back to the states and reel in the federal leviathan.
3. State Nullification - Last ditch effort to try to take power back from the federal monster, though by this point it may be too late.
4. State Secession - Could either end up peaceably like the breakup of the Czechoslovakia in 1993 or a brutal:
5. Civil War II like the first one.... The longer we wait on #2, the more likely #3, then #4 and finally #5. .
So, do we do nothing and just wait for # 5?
Quick review: We need 34 states to pass an application, then Congress shall, by law, call a Convention of States as soon as it receives applications from 2/3 of the State Legislatures. That's 34 states. (So far both legislative chambers of 4 States, {Alabama, Alaska, Florida and Georgia}, have completely passed their resolutions and 36 state legislative chambers or bodies have filed or passed resolutions.) Amendments are proposed and voted on at the convention. Each Amendment must be ratified by ¾ of the states in order to become part of the US Constitution. That’s 38 states.
“There are far more political and legal constraints on a runaway convention than on a runaway Congress.” - Robert Natelson
Most FReepers are aware of these links, but I post anyway for review and for people new to Article V. It is our responsibility to make Article V the most understood aspect of the US Constitution.
****Please see this summary video from Alabama first: Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A great introduction!
Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States
Convention of States Live! with Mike Farris
The Case for an Article V Convention. Great explanation of an Article V convention to the Massachusetts State Legislature.
**** Convention of States Lots of information here.
Call a Convention A call for a Convention of States
Missouri state senator delivers amazing testimony (video) Reasoned speech on why we need an Article V Convention.
Article V Project to Restore Liberty Another good source.
Convention of States model Resolution
A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie
Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments
Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments
Mark Levin: “The Liberty Amendments” - Complete Sean Hannity Special + other Links
List of Mark Levin You Tube Videos
Citizens for Self-Governance: Convention of States Project Youtube hub – Lots of educational videos here
Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub
Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin
*** Mark Levin’s ALEC Speech, Dec 4, 2014
Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.
Mark Levin’s “Liberty Amendments” Sean Hannity Special
We can fight the uniparty! States, the Natural Second Party by Jacquerie
Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution
The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process
Friends of Article V Convention Links
The Indiana Statute that will Govern their Delegates
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention:
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part I)
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a convention. (Part II)
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part III)
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part IV)
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part V)
Congress’ Failure to Call an Amendments Convention. (Part VI)
Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendment by Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th! Shorter Abstract here: Ulysses at the Mast, one page Abstract
****For those of you that still have doubts about the Article V process, please review: Responses To Convention Of States Opposition My initial concerns were resolved after reading these articles. My attitude now is Go For It!
Sarah Palin: Debunking the myths of a Convention of States
A Single-Subject Convention Addresses the “runaway convention” fear.
John Birch Society Denies Its History and Betrays Its Mission The original Birchers were for an Article V Convention.
Update: Convention of States by the numbers The current State count
Convention of States Gaining Momentum
Article V Handbook - for State Legislators An important resource.
**** State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!
Most State Legislatures are in session now. Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.
Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points.
Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.
Let’s all work together to get this going!
I do hope that you know that Roman Republic devolved into the Roman Empire at the end of that 450 years where the rights of the people flowed from the Emperor. Who is to say that we aren't already at that break point.