[South40]

Please try to make up your mind which side you want to be on? Right now you’re on the wrong one.

That's a steaming pile of BS and you know it. Trump is a liberal who says what he has to say to fool conservatives into believing he is one of them. I haven't fallen for it.

Do you wish to support the immigration mess, the trade mess, and the people who support them as they are?

I wish to support a real conservative who isn't a circus sideshow.

Do you wish to support a person who speaks out and says that what is taking place is wrong?

I wish not to support a man who has absolutely no political knowledge but has figured out one thing; say the right things and those on the right who are frustrated with the status quo with fawn all over you. Again, I haven't fallen for it and I'm not about to. The man is a liberal who has said, "I probably identify more as a democRAT". I am not making this up; he said that! You are free to ignore it, I choose not to.

You are doing your best to discredit Trump. By doing so, guess who you are defending.

I am defending real conservatism, not his fraudulent brand of it.

I don’t agree with Trump across the board, but I see no clarification whatsoever of your stance and it’s beneficial aspects for those who hate the U. S., love the border being erased, and tens of millions of U. S. workers out of work.

I see no beneficial aspect for those supporting a fraud of a candidate. And I am more than happy to call out said fraud for being the fraud that he clearly is while I defend conservatism.

In some ways Trump is an acknowledged gray issue, but on the issues he addressed, he is a solid black and white issue.

In some ways sure. But he is still a fraud pretending to be a conservative. If Anthony Wiener suddenly started saying these things, would you believe he was sincere?

The fact that you can’t acknowledge that should tell even you something.

The fact that you can't see this fraud for what he is tells me a lot.

[DoughtyOne]

Please try to make up your mind which side you want to be on? Right now you’re on the wrong one.

That's a steaming pile of BS and you know it. Trump is a liberal who says what he has to say to fool conservatives into believing he is one of them. I haven't fallen for it.

Then please list the people who have addressed illegal immigration and trade as he has.  Fact of the matter is, you can't.  Failing that, you have to discredit him instead.

So rather than agree with his statements and say that you can't support him anyway, you have chosen to simply do your best to destroy him any way you can politically.

Why did you support strong immigration policy for as long as you did, when we find out it wasn't important to you at all?

It's one thing to say you can't support a guy because you think he's crazy.  It's entirely another to absolutely refuse to agree with what he has said that is absolutely right.

Do you wish to support the immigration mess, the trade mess, and the people who support them as they are?

I wish to support a real conservative who isn't a circus sideshow.

Okay, then please point to the Conservative that has addressed immigration and trade as he has.  I'll support them.

Do you wish to support a person who speaks out and says that what is taking place is wrong?

I wish not to support a man who has absolutely no political knowledge but has figured out one thing; say the right things and those on the right who are frustrated with the status quo with fawn all over you. Again, I haven't fallen for it and I'm not about to. The man is a liberal who has said, "I probably identify more as a democRAT". I am not making this up; he said that! You are free to ignore it, I choose not to.

You've already said that what, hundreds of times?  And yet, you still haven't said you agreed with his statements once.

You are doing your best to discredit Trump. By doing so, guess who you are defending.

I am defending real conservatism, not his fraudulent brand of it.

Is it fraudulent to declare our immigration situation a mess, and declare our trade policies to be destructive?  Who else has stood up and declared 30 million illegal immigrants should not receive citizenship?  Who else has stated this has to end?  Who else has stated he will build a wall?  Who else has said it's wrong to displace U. S. Citizen workers?

If this guy is a Leftist, what does that make every other Republican, inlcuding you?  Right now you're Left of Trump on the issues he's addressed.

I don’t agree with Trump across the board, but I see no clarification whatsoever of your stance and it’s beneficial aspects for those who hate the U. S., love the border being erased, and tens of millions of U. S. workers out of work.

I see no beneficial aspect for those supporting a fraud of a candidate. And I am more than happy to call out said fraud for being the fraud that he clearly is while I defend conservatism.

Okay, then given a chance to clarify, you are still opting to refuse to admit his statements were true and long overdue.  That does not make you more Conservative than Trump on these matters.  It makes you less Conservative than him.

In some ways Trump is an acknowledged gray issue, but on the issues he addressed, he is a solid black and white issue.

In some ways sure. But he is still a fraud pretending to be a conservative. If Anthony Wiener suddenly started saying these things, would you believe he was sincere?

If you want to play stupid hypotheticals, let's play.  If Chalrie Manson said Reagan was a good president, would that make Reagan a bad president or Manson wrong?

The fact that you can’t acknowledge that should tell even you something.

The fact that you can't see this fraud for what he is tells me a lot.

You don't know that he isn't being fully truthful with his comments about immigration and trade.  He has staked his reputation on the line by doing it, and so far he isn't backing down one bit.

I'd say he's been willing to pay a price for what he stated, and I would think you could be wise enough to realize that.

He isn't perfect.  I have a lot of problems with him too.

There isn't one other person out there talking about immigration and trade like Trump is.

Immigration will end this nation.  What we are doing with regard to immigration will destroy our nation.  Illegals are taking over politically.  People from terrorist nations are being brought here in mass.

I've not advocated we give Trump a pass on his worst aspects, but we either turn this nation around with regard to immigration and trade, or all the really sane Republicans won't matter.  There won't be a U. S. left for them to corrupt further.