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Ted Cruz: Constitutional Remedies to a Lawless Supreme Court
National Review ^ | June 26, 2015 | Ted Cruz

Posted on 06/26/2015 4:00:53 PM PDT by Isara

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To: Jacquerie

“How is tyranny to be restrained?”

By a really TOUGH tyrant, that’s how! /s;)


141 posted on 06/26/2015 11:28:53 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: INVAR; Hostage; Jacquerie; boxlunch; Publius
There are many who comment againstArticle V who do so for questionable motives. I have cited the NRA for its opposition and I have asserted that their motive is to protect the Second Amendment even at the cost of the whole Constitution. With respect to this poster, INVAR, I have flatly asserted that he is opposed to Article V because he actually desires civil war and bloodshed. I have stated that my allegation would be in effect withdrawn if he simply denied it. He has failed to do do so here :

The question is whether you would rather have war even if you could have the government you want by peaceful means? You simply will not answer the question. I believe you're concealing a mad desire to make war. More, you will not tolerate others seeking to obtain good government by peaceful means because that frustrates your desire for bloodshed.

If I am wrong all you have to do is say so.

But then you must explain, if you're intellectually honest, why you're opposed to trying to find a reasonable and peaceful way to good government.

INVAR not once but repeatedly has declined to deny that he actually seeks violent overthrow of the government. I invite the interested reader to review the entire thread to realize that the concerns raised on these threads by the same critics have been refuted over and over again. I invite the interested reader to review the entire thread to consider whether the critics are animated by good and decent motive.

Mindless repetition of the idea that lawless politicians will not be made law-abiding by a mere constitutional amendment is preposterous and has been shown to be preposterous on its face. One need only consider the amendment proposed by Senator Cruz to require federal judges to periodically stand for election or recall. The amendment is self enforcing, either the judge or Justice is confirmed in his office or he goes. There is nothing Washington politicians can do to work around this amendment to the Constitution.

These "process" amendments are structural and therefore are self effectuating and very difficult to evade. Other such amendments include term limits as well as a requirement that bureaucratic regulations be confirmed by the Congress or they lapse if not confirmed. These structural changes are self enforcing, Congress either votes the regulation up or Congress votes the regulation down. There is no guarantee of political success but certainly the amendment will be effectuated.

Structural amendments clearly have the power to restore our Constitution. To deny this reality by mindlessly repeating a mantra as does INVAR that tyrannical politicians will remain tyrannical is a tautology without application to structural changes. Those posters like INVAR who engage in this practice out of questionable perhaps even the darkest motives do so having been fully informed of the power of structural "process" amendments.

The upside of Article V is demonstrably real, the downside is fully contained, there is no better way short of the violence some actually seek. Do not be deceived, do not let the debate be sidetracked, do not lose whatever chance Article V holds for the future of your children and grandchildren.


142 posted on 06/26/2015 11:45:38 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Isara
periodic judicial-retention elections

Huh, this country elected Clinton twice and Obama twice. What's so magical about elections?

143 posted on 06/27/2015 12:16:15 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Hostage; All
"Mark Levin mentions the relevant factor is the large money creation machine via the Federal Reserve. The States have no such machine."

As a matter of fact, the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had discussed delegating to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate banking. But the issue was dropped, the states wanting such powers to remain unique state powers.

“A proposition was made to them to authorize Congress to open canals, and an amendatory one to empower them to incorporate. But the whole was rejected, and one of the reasons for rejection urged in debate was, that then they would have a power to erect a bank, which would render the great cities, where there were prejudices and jealousies on the subject, adverse to the reception of the Constitution [emphasis added].” —Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

In fact, Alexander Hamilton’s national bank was arguably the first constitutional scandal, the feds stealing unique, 10th Amendment-protected state powers to regulate banking.

"He threatened to stack the Supreme Court because they were declaring many of his New Deal Programs unconstitutional."

Again, the states had never amended the Constitution to grant the feds the specific powers to establish FDR’s New Deal programs. So they were unconstitutional.

And as I mentioned, FDR didn’t lift a finger to encourage Congress to propose amendments to the Constitution to the states to establish his programs within the framework of the Constitution as required by Article V.

"FDR had been selling his Social Security as just an old age pensioner program that was voluntary."

Regardless that FDR’s Congress used the General Welfare Clause (GWC; 1.8.1) as its excuse to establish Social Security, President James Madison had noted that the GWC was not a delegation of power but an introductory clause for the clauses that followed.

"To refer the power in question to the clause "to provide for common defense and general welfare" would be contrary to the established and consistent rules of interpretation, as rendering the special and careful enumeration of powers which follow the clause nugatory and improper.” — James Madison, Veto of federal public works bill, 1817

"Also FDR had social healthcare in the works to be launched but it was shelved because it became clear that FDR was pushing his luck. The democrats waited 75 years to get their social healthcare forced on Americans."

Post FDR era activist justices and Democrats have wrongly ignored that state sovereignty-respecting justices had previously clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the following excerpts.

In fact, note that regardless that federal Democrats, RINOs, corrupt justices and indoctrinated attorneys will argue that if the Constitution doesn’t say that the feds can’t do something then they can do it, the Supreme Court has addressed that foolish idea too. Politically correct interpretations of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause (5.2) aside, the Court has clarified in broad terms that powers not delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate healthcare in this case, are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

The bottom line is that the 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and activist justices along with it.

144 posted on 06/27/2015 12:58:54 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Isara

My allegiance to this country is gone, and I used to be so highly patriotic. Its a very sad day. Let the chinese or russians have it, my allegiance is to God, I am done with trying to change this liberal godless cancer of a country.


145 posted on 06/27/2015 1:48:38 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: DaxtonBrown
So your remedy would apparently be civil war. Hey, I think I will stick with Cruz.

I'll stick with Cruz too, but specifically because he understands that once "normal" channels fail, a Civil War is a viable solution - he as much said so with some of his 2nd Amendment statements.

Go CRUZ!

146 posted on 06/27/2015 2:57:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Hostage

I’ve heard differently that he supports COS. Maybe his official endorsement hasn’t been made yet but in my thinking he’s not at all opposed to COS.

This was a separate paragraph near the end. What else does he need to say? Or maybe you should be a bit more suspicious of what you hear.

“And if Congress will not act, passing the constitutional amendments needed to correct this lawlessness, then the movement from the people for an Article V Convention of the States — to propose the amendments directly — will grow stronger and stronger.”


147 posted on 06/27/2015 3:41:09 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Hostage
Let’s focus on getting JUST ONE done first. My preference is THE ONE should address the flaws in the 17th, the power between the States and the federal government.

There is our downfall.

Look at the GOP primary just here on FR. People calling each other's candidates RINOs, traitors, etc.

Do you think there will be any consensus around who will lead an Article V and what will be the focus?

We are our own worst enemies.

148 posted on 06/27/2015 4:10:44 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Scott Walker - a more conservative governor than Ronald Reagan)
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To: kingattax

Amen.


149 posted on 06/27/2015 4:28:54 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: INVAR

if Cruz doesn’t make it to POTUS....he might just make a bang up POTCSA.


150 posted on 06/27/2015 4:39:45 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: INVAR

Looks like we need a NEW battle flag.


151 posted on 06/27/2015 4:42:05 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: INVAR

if there is no law, then, there is no law

if those that govern are not restrained by the law, then those that are governed are not restrained by the law


152 posted on 06/27/2015 4:51:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: Isara

I think Cruz is onto the right idea.

One thing I’m worried about though is that the Judicial Elections might backfire. I certainly would not want to see Antonin Scalia removed from the SCOTUS! So to remedy this in his proposal, I suggest Cruz put this Election of Judges on a day where the right people would come out and vote....like Tax Day. This would maximize the number of good guys voting.


153 posted on 06/27/2015 5:03:45 AM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: nathanbedford

As always, a thoughtful and articulate response that cuts through the nonsense...

Our founders spent YEARS petitioning the king before arms were taken up and shooting started. If those opposed to an article V convention for the purpose of proposing amendments spent as much time assisting as they do telling us it’s a “con-con” and won’t work, the momentum would be potentially overwhelming...

As others have said, trying EVERY PEACEFUL means of a resolution gives us the moral authority to proceed down other paths...

http://www.conventionofstates.com/


154 posted on 06/27/2015 5:08:14 AM PDT by bfh333 (6/25/2015... The day the Supreme Court gave us SCOTUSCare!)
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To: Isara; ml/nj; hoosiermama; ExTexasRedhead; Political Junkie Too; randita; Publius; ...
I know that some here may disagree with this, but:

Ted Cruz would make a superb SCOTUS justice himself. That's the job that's most suited to his talents, intellect, and background, more so than POTUS or Senator.

155 posted on 06/27/2015 5:08:32 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Isara

EXCELLENT, Cruz is the only way to go


156 posted on 06/27/2015 5:13:57 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (BLUE LIVES MATTER)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Here... Here...

While we participate in the circular firing squad, the progressives march along like the jack-booted thugs they are...


157 posted on 06/27/2015 5:22:07 AM PDT by bfh333 (6/25/2015... The day the Supreme Court gave us SCOTUSCare!)
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To: Diogenesis

Two judges should have recused themselves, one judge who is out of it,Ginsburg actually married to homosexuals a few weeks ago.
They need to be impeached and removed.

The Constitution states if we believe we have a tyrannical Govt ten it needs to be replaced, so why the hell s this not happening?


158 posted on 06/27/2015 5:24:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Isara
...I am proposing an amendment to the United States Constitution that would subject the justices of the Supreme Court to periodic judicial-retention elections.

If Ted Cruz knows he would never get 67 votes to impeach a justice then he must also know he'll never get 67 votes to pass this amendment.

159 posted on 06/27/2015 5:29:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Windflier

Gov. Abbott of Texas will. I think we have some Republican Govs. who would stand with Texas. I believe Bobby Jindahl would. I would hope our Gov.in Tenn., Haslam, and Asa Hutcheson of Arkansas would stand up. Possibly the Govs. of states like Utah, Montana,Wyoming, Idaho, and Oklahoma.

We need to start contacting our state governments and telling them we want them to fight this and that we are with them.


160 posted on 06/27/2015 5:41:01 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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