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To: INVAR
At war's end, General Robert E. Lee was approached by his subordinates who urged him to break out from Yankee encirclement and take to the western mountains to wage a guerrilla against the enemy. It is a testament to the nobility of Lee's character that he firmly declined their suggestion urging his men instead to lay down their arms and take up their duties as citizens of the Federal Republic. By word and deed until his death, Lee set this example for his countrymen in the difficult reconstruction period. Initially, Forrest followed Lee's lead. But two years after Appomattox, Forrest became the head of the resistance movement-one might say terrorism cult-which sought to defeat the federal occupation of the South and undo reconstruction, the Ku Klux Klan....... (from my about page)

My advocacy of Article V instead of rebellion might "amuse" you but your presumption irritates. You are dealing with a line of Americans that has taken part in every single war starting literally with the French and Indian war. We do not accept lectures on our patriotic virtue or the deficiencies of our conscience lightly.

A rebellion against the American government equipped with drones, lasers, cyber warmaking capability, air power, logistics, and all the panoply of modern weapons known to man is utterly doomed to failure and dooms the nation to a horror unimaginable. To insight such a rebellion knowing the inevitable consequences when other constitutional remedies are readily available is irresponsible beyond description.

Before you condemn me, my wife, my children, and my grandchildren to murder and slaughter, torture and privatization, incarceration and indoctrination, penury and misery you should abandon your self-righteousness and consider the costs. You want to bring down hellfire on 300 million people rather than try Article V because you have a smack ass about the present government. No amount of bloodshed will resurrect 40 million dead babies. Nor is this a matter of saving smart smart phones and flat screens for millennials, this is a matter of murder and fire on a scale you cannot even imagine.


208 posted on 06/25/2015 11:27:58 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
We do not accept lectures on our patriotic virtue or the deficiencies of our conscience lightly.

I wasn't making your patriotism an issue or declaring your conscience deficient. I'm making an issue that Article V will NOT stop the tyrants or the path they have us on. Lawless despots have no regard for the law and civility unless you submit to their will. Making new laws when they ignore current laws in the hopes they can be restrained and reasoned with before bloodshed occurs, is lunacy.

A rebellion against the American government equipped with drones, lasers, cyber warmaking capability, air power, logistics, and all the panoply of modern weapons known to man is utterly doomed to failure and dooms the nation to a horror unimaginable.

Had our Founders succumbed to the same fear of the most powerful military on the planet at the time, we would still be subjects of the Crown. How sad that the home of the brave seemingly no longer is.

To insight such a rebellion knowing the inevitable consequences when other constitutional remedies are readily available is irresponsible beyond description.

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. The consequences of appeasing tyranny on a Satanic level in a vain hope of avoiding trouble is far worse than resisting those who would render you under absolute despotism or worse.

There are no "Constitutional remedies" to removing tyranny without violence sir. None. That is WHY we have a Second Amendment. Do not lie to yourself or others. Rulers that have demonstrated they are above the rule of law and are a law unto themselves are not going to abide by any new laws we demand them to abide.

Article V is a civil preventative to tyranny. It does not offer a means to remove an entrenched tyranny, because tyrants are not beholden to anything but brute force and the threat of force. Fact of history and human nature.

In addition, tyrants and oligarchs are not sanguine about reasonable restraints on their power and do not acquiesce to laws that limit them. Even when the majority of their people demand them.

you should abandon your self-righteousness and consider the costs.

The cost? You want to live on your knees or on your knees over a trench???? If your life and comforts are worth more to you than resisting tyrants for liberty, may you and your posterity enjoy your subjugation. May your chains rest lightly.

No amount of bloodshed will resurrect 40 million dead babies.

I'm beginning to believe that no amount of praying and begging is going to deter The Almighty from pouring out His Judgment on this land for those 40 million murdered infants. You might write them off - but God will not.

As some have suggested, if the Civil War was blood for blood required of this nation for the sin of slavery - we should QUAKE in fear over what The Lord is going to require of this nation for those 40 million that cannot be brought back from the grave.

this is a matter of murder and fire on a scale you cannot even imagine.

It's coming whether we like it or not, or whether or not we all just sit here and do nothing but surrender what we have left and lick the palms of Obama, the Left and the Oligarchy to beg for table scraps and a subsidy so we do not make them mad at us.

A post-Constitutonal nation under a Marxist Oligarchy is no more going to be restrained by any new Amendments you attempt to add to to the document that has been rendered completely irrelevant.

210 posted on 06/26/2015 12:48:38 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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