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California Caps What Patients Pay For Pricey Drugs. Will Other States Follow?
Kaiser Health News ^ | June 24, 2015 | By April Dembosky

Posted on 06/24/2015 11:22:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Expensive specialty medicines used to treat cancer and chronic illnesses have forced some very ill Americans to choose between getting proper treatment and paying their rent.

To ease the financial burden, the California agency that governs the state’s Affordable Care Act marketplace issued landmark rules recently that will limit the amount anyone enrolled in one of those plans can be charged each month for high-end medicine.

Covered California board member Marty Morgenstern said the agency should do even more by going to the root of the problem: the pharmaceutical companies.

“They charge irrational prices,” Morgenstern said, “on specialty drugs, and on all drugs, as a matter of fact.”

Insurers say it’s only a matter of time before the costs of specialty drugs will force them to raise monthly premiums for everyone in the health plan.

The pharmaceutical industry adamantly defends its prices.

“The cost and time it takes to bring new medicines to the marketplace is increasing, as biopharmaceutical companies go after harder and harder to treat diseases,” said Robert Zirkelbach of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the drugmakers’ trade group known as PhRMA.

(Excerpt) Read more at khn.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: obamacare; pricecontrols; rinocare; socialism
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Wage and price controls always work. /marxism
1 posted on 06/24/2015 11:22:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Patients will simply be told to do without.


2 posted on 06/24/2015 11:23:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

look for another double-digit premium price increase next year.


3 posted on 06/24/2015 11:26:16 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The beginning of the end of medical research.


4 posted on 06/24/2015 11:26:23 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I believe the ACA actually prohibits them from doing this. Big Pharma would have killed it otherwise.


5 posted on 06/24/2015 11:28:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CodeToad

I may have to. My former employer dropped retiree medical and a “specialty drug” I’ve been taking for >8years will now cost over $4500/yr instead of $160/yr. So.............. The actual drug cost is $3120 for a 28 day supply retail so woo hoo! I suppose “only” needing to pay the $4500 is a bargain. Unless it ain’t in the budget. Which it ain’t. Still working on how to keep on it without selling everything.


6 posted on 06/24/2015 11:28:38 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Insurers will just refuse to cover these drugs as they do now with certain drugs. So it will come out of pocket and for some people, even if prices are capped, they will not be able to afford the cost.


7 posted on 06/24/2015 11:29:47 AM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Insurance companies are annoyed at being pressured to cover drugs like Harvoni, although it is effectively a cure for Hep C.

The public payers (Medi-cal, etc) in particular care only about the cost per instance of care rather than the total cost of patient. They would rather a patient need a liver transplant, which they could deny, down the line rather than cover a pharmaceutical cure for Hep C.


8 posted on 06/24/2015 11:31:17 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: arthurus

It is only a matter of time with the rest of the whole free riding that similar price controls would come to the US. As long as the US is available to pay the fixed R&D costs of drug development the pharms would go along with accepting marginal costs to sell to the rest of the world. But if the same mentality becomes US public policy medical research will come to an end.


9 posted on 06/24/2015 11:32:53 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pricey = Effective

Generic = 10%-15% formula difference - OFTEN INEFFECTIVE!!!


10 posted on 06/24/2015 11:32:58 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hurray! How soon before EVERYTHING is FREE? Free! Free! Free!

Free Stuff for Everyone!


11 posted on 06/24/2015 11:33:26 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If I recall, California’s “Gray” Davis did the same thing on their energy costs to the citizens. The state couldn’t keep up with the growing demand and had to start importing the energy from out of state. Unfortunately the out of state costs kept growing to the point Calif. couldn’t afford it any more and finally had to pass the cost on to the citizens. Their energy bills literally doubled over night.......


12 posted on 06/24/2015 11:33:39 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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Patients will simply be told to do without

And then they will sue.

13 posted on 06/24/2015 11:34:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The drug companies will raise the price of those expensive drugs to patients in the other states to cover California patients, or raise premiums on everyone. They are not in business to lose money but to maximize profits. I own stock in pharmaceuticals and wouldn’t have it any other way.

California democrats continue to do stupid s***.


14 posted on 06/24/2015 11:34:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (6 more shopping days 'til, Graybeard 58's b/day! The BIG seven ohhhh.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lesson: if you get sick, make sure it’s a disease with a vocal advocacy group, willing to dress up in costumes or whatever it takes to make a spectacle and put political pressure on payers to cover the most effective treatments.


15 posted on 06/24/2015 11:34:51 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The price of these hep C drugs in dropping due to competition.

When Gilead came out with theirs, they thought they had a monopoly and could charge anything they liked. Then AbbVie came out with one and got a big contract by offering a deal. Once a third one comes along, the pressure to cut the prices will be enormous.


16 posted on 06/24/2015 11:35:34 AM PDT by proxy_user
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Agreed. An this competition is ultimately good for consumers as well as the pharmaceutical companies.


17 posted on 06/24/2015 11:36:59 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a bunch of sick $*&&S. Mandating insurance, raising premiums, cutting back on covered meds, and if you can’t afford health insurance you are penalized and if you can’t afford the meds you die.


18 posted on 06/24/2015 11:38:35 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: arthurus

There is a difference between just compensation and outright greed, there are drugs that have been on the market for many years that still are overpriced. Fair or not Americans pay 30 to 50% more for meds than those in say Canada or Europe.


19 posted on 06/24/2015 11:39:17 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: oblomov
Lesson: if you get sick, make sure it’s a disease with a vocal advocacy group, willing to dress up in costumes or whatever it takes to make a spectacle and put political pressure on payers to cover the most effective treatments.

Unfortunately you are very correct.

20 posted on 06/24/2015 11:39:59 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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