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Confederate flags burned and monuments defaced as South Carolina protesters lash out in wake..
dailymail.co.uk ^ | June 21, 2015 | Chris Spargo and Mia De Graaf

Posted on 06/21/2015 6:07:40 PM PDT by PROCON

Edited on 06/21/2015 6:29:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Protesters in South Carolina have begun burning Confederate flags and defacing monuments as the debate as to whether or not the flag should fly over the state's capital intensifies in the wake of Wednesday's brutal massacre that saw nine people murdered because they were black.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; dixie; dylannroof; protesters; racism
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To: ladyjane

They are irrelevant facts. Guess what, some Jews actually worked in the camps and sold out their fellow Jews. So? Whats your point?


121 posted on 06/22/2015 7:31:51 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
They are irrelevant facts. Guess what, some Jews actually worked in the camps and sold out their fellow Jews.

Speaking of irrelevant facts...

122 posted on 06/22/2015 7:54:05 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Thank you for proving my point.


123 posted on 06/22/2015 7:57:39 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: ladyjane
There were court cases that made it difficult but slavery was illegal.

There were court cases that made it illegal. Just because the Massachusetts legislature never passed a law outlawing it is irrelevant. I'm not aware of a single Southern state that passed a law outlawing slavery either, but the 13th Amendment kind of made such laws irrelevant.

124 posted on 06/22/2015 12:12:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Massachusetts and other New England states made a lot of money with the slave trade. Later they made more money using cotton from the south and manufacturing textiles. They were happy to buy the raw materials that were the result of slave labor. They themselves were owners and slave traders.

Somehow northerners want to be seen as innocent and southerners as guilty even though they profited as much, if not more, than southerners.


125 posted on 06/22/2015 12:25:25 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Somehow northerners want to be seen as innocent and southerners as guilty even though they profited as much, if not more, than southerners.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the South was willing to start a war to defend slavery, thus leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men and the devastation of thousands of square miles of land that makes the South the villain on the whole issue of slavery?

126 posted on 06/22/2015 12:29:49 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: miss marmelstein

Most of them don’t even know there was a Second World War. Or for that matter a First World War.


127 posted on 06/22/2015 2:18:47 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: RginTN

Yeah. And will they disband that other Democrat creation, The Ku Klux Klan?


128 posted on 06/22/2015 2:19:37 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Mamzelle
One hundred and fifty years and blacks are still playing the victim? Too many in the black community and the white establishment have made racism a business. In fact, that's part of the damn problem. Every class is a ‘’community''. When the heck are we all going to be just Americans?
129 posted on 06/22/2015 2:23:16 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: PROCON

The stupid twit governor gave an inch now the MSM is coming for their mile.


130 posted on 06/22/2015 2:25:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ladyjane

Prior to 1807 most slaves ships flew the USA ensign and were registered in Massachusetts and other Yankee states.


131 posted on 06/22/2015 2:31:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reno89519

And unlikely she has much respect for our history.


132 posted on 06/22/2015 2:42:19 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: jmacusa

This is true. They’re almost like muslims running around the Mideast destroying Buddhist artifacts...mindless.


133 posted on 06/22/2015 2:46:17 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: central_va

What do you think the mile will be? I think it’ll be Confederate monuments.


134 posted on 06/22/2015 2:47:03 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

The “inch” is the Confederate symbolism the mile is the “2nd amendment”.


135 posted on 06/22/2015 2:49:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Gotcha.


136 posted on 06/22/2015 2:51:43 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: ladyjane

Lady Jane, don’t engage with these sore winners. It isn’t worth it; it’s like engaging with the people over on the religious forms. Dog with bone!


137 posted on 06/22/2015 2:56:40 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: central_va

But none of them ended up in Norfolk or Charleston, right General?


138 posted on 06/22/2015 3:00:43 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: ladyjane

It didn’t take a war to end slavery in the North but sure as hell took one to end it in the South.


139 posted on 06/22/2015 3:02:59 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: ladyjane; HiTech RedNeck; rockrr
ladyjane: "Massachusetts never outlawed slavery until after the War of Agression."

Where in the world do you people come up with such garbage?
Massachusetts was one of the first northern states to outlaw slavery, in 1783.

So you don't embarrass yourself again on this, here is a timeline of who abolished slavery when.

ladyjane: "But Massachusetts was happy to make a lot of money off of the war, the uniforms, the ammunition and the rifles. Does that stink too?"

Every northern state contributed both blood and treasure to the Union, and Massachusetts was not the biggest manufacturer.
The Confederacy also had industries devoted to war materials production, though substantially fewer, resulting in Confederate troops often poorly equipped and supplied.

ladyjane: "And northerners have been happy ever since to re-write the history of what really happened."

Nothing posted on the pro-Union side here even comes close to the cockamamie nonsense you pro-Confederates concoct for every occasion, FRiend.

ladyjane: "I hope you are aware that there were thousands of blacks who owned slaves in the south and thousands of whites who did not."

In 1860 there were about four million black slaves and half a million freed blacks.
About 13,000 slaves (three tenths of 1%) were owned by 4,000 black slave owners, 80% of those in Louisiana, South Carolina, Virginia & Maryland.
The majority of black slave owners were mixed-race.

The numbers of white slave-owning families was nearly 50% in the Deep South, falling nearer to 10% in Border States.
So the dividing line between southern states which joined the Confederacy, versus those which did not was about 20%.
Border States of Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, western Virginia and Delaware all had fewer than 20% slave owning families, and so refused to join the Confederacy.

ladyjane: "And do you know that some slaves petitioned to go back into slavery because they were having a hard time taking care of themselves."

Selling oneself into slavery to pay off debts was a practice as old as civilization, but there are no records I know of, of slaves having once escaped to freedom in the North, voluntarily returning South to slavery.

140 posted on 06/23/2015 5:05:20 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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