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Top Democrat advisor ‘cannot imagine the horror’ if S.C. churchgoers were armed
washingtontmes ^ | June 20, 2015 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 06/20/2015 2:17:29 PM PDT by PROCON

It’s hard to imagine how the massacre at the Emanuel AME Church that left nine dead could have been worse, but a top Democratic strategist says the shooting would have been a “horror” if the black parishioners were armed.

“Now I cannot imagine the horror that could have occurred if people were sitting around with concealed weapons, this thing started, and you have a full-scale gunfight,” said Democratic advisor Bob Shrum on Friday’s episode of MSNBC’s “The Ed Show.”

“You might not even have three survivors,” said Mr. Shrum, a top campaign aide to now-Secretary of State John Kerry during his failed 2004 presidential bid.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; charleston; dylannroof
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To: PROCON

What a shriveled wimp.


21 posted on 06/20/2015 2:45:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: PROCON

This same Victimologist attitude advises young girls to carry a whistle for protection against thieves and rapists. But never, ever be caught carrying a weapon, not even a rock in a sock.


22 posted on 06/20/2015 2:48:27 PM PDT by lee martell (The sa)
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To: PROCON
Yep. Also imagine the horror if the Jews in Nazi Germany had been armed. Why it would be even worse than the Wild West and lots of people could have been killed by the gunfire!

Does Shrum The Bum have any idea what he is saying?

23 posted on 06/20/2015 2:50:00 PM PDT by Gritty (Liberals war with any meaningful forms of diversity conflicting with their worldview -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: PROCON

Imagine the horror if the Allies had had guns during WWII.


24 posted on 06/20/2015 2:50:01 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: PROCON

They deny reality.

I can’t recall a case where things went worse because a ccw person at a restaurant or store was involved in stopping a mass murderer.


25 posted on 06/20/2015 2:50:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BitWielder1
Does he really believe the church goers would shoot at each other, like a Hollywood bar brawl?

Obviously. Put a gun in a liberal's hand and he becomes a terrorist. THAT is the problem. If gun laws specifically esclude gun ownership by liberals we will have a safe environment. Arm them at our peril.

26 posted on 06/20/2015 2:50:37 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: PROCON

He’s paid to disarm people. Plain and simple. It’s how he earns his keep.


27 posted on 06/20/2015 2:51:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PROCON
"I can tell you what would have happened; instead of 9 dead there might have been 1, maybe 2 people dead before the shooter was taken out.”

And that is Shrum's nightmare. Currently nine blacks are dead, an eminently satisfactory result for one that pushes for as many black abortions as he does. No guns allowed means more dead blacks. Sounds like a true Democrat.

28 posted on 06/20/2015 2:51:23 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: PROCON
Law abiding citizens of *all* colors have the moral *and* legal right to defend themselves.If even one of the innocent churchgoers was armed it seems very likely that the carnage wouldn't have been as bad as it was...and it even seems possible that *no* carnage (except,maybe,for the scumbag white punk) would have occurred.
29 posted on 06/20/2015 2:51:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's Ambulance Chaser-In-Chief)
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To: BitWielder1
C'mon! You know dam well what the libbys getting at.

He's obviously working with his well thought out scenario in which the church goers were carrying concealed black, fully automatic single shot revolvers with high capacity "clips".

Can you see the problem now?

30 posted on 06/20/2015 2:53:54 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: PROCON

Woman in Colorado Springs did a good job wit the gun in her purse. Liberals just make things up.


31 posted on 06/20/2015 2:54:40 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: generally

people like that don’t think that people are capable of shooting just the bad guy.


32 posted on 06/20/2015 2:57:57 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: BlackAdderess

Yep. Had the churchgoers, even one, been armed, someone could have been seriously injured.


33 posted on 06/20/2015 3:01:44 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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Notice the red, bulbous nose.....wonder how much alcohol he drinks every day? I wonder how much was imbibed before making that idiotic statement.
34 posted on 06/20/2015 3:02:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: PROCON

Mr. Shrum, with all due respect (which is just about exactly zero), you are an idiot. You are an idiot and/or a liar. No one with even the smallest iota of common sense could hold with the position you have taken. That makes you either an idiot, or a liar.


35 posted on 06/20/2015 3:02:27 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: BlackAdderess

Yep. Had the churchgoers, even one been armed, someone could have been seriously injured.


36 posted on 06/20/2015 3:09:12 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: jospehm20

Yup, that is why the Secret Service carries guns, submachine guns at that. Guns are dangerous beyond measure. No one should have guns, well at least they should be illegal so that only criminals have them.

http://airpower.blogspot.com/2008/06/tooth-violence.html

Obvious point, if the “victims” were armed, they would not have been victims. I tire of this.


37 posted on 06/20/2015 3:22:29 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: PROCON
the best solutions, in fact, perhaps the only solution to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun
38 posted on 06/20/2015 3:23:32 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: jospehm20

Hmmm... Shrum rhymes with dumb.


39 posted on 06/20/2015 3:24:49 PM PDT by Calpublican (No Comprendo)
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To: PROCON

So if 4 pull out guns and start shooting at 1 armed ding, their would be more dead innocents?

These people must be sniffing glue.


40 posted on 06/20/2015 3:38:54 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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