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To: Finny

But, but they were NOT wearing vests!!!!!!!

The meme by law enforcement was the Cossacks were the bad guys which falls apart with this view of the story. Oops, no mention of a bathroom brawl that moved through the restaurant and finally outside leaving blood and guts splattered everywhere making the restaurant “surreal” according to Sgt. Swanton.

The only thing I want to know is which ones were the under cover cops who stirred the pot.


14 posted on 06/20/2015 2:50:10 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill

That I think is the Key that opens the beginning and the end of this story


15 posted on 06/20/2015 3:05:37 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: bgill
But, but they were NOT wearing vests!!!!!!!

Who wasn't wearing vests? Where does it say? Thanks!

19 posted on 06/20/2015 3:38:45 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: bgill
I remember reading somewhere, don't know the link, that police had said they had undercover Cossacks. I also read one of the witness accounts that stated that the Bandidos (or Bandido affiliated??) who rolled up and supposedly ran over the guy's foot and started the whole thing, came in the same way they did minutes earlier, and that there were at least half a dozen cop cars parked in plain view.

I can already see variations of this model happening around the nation in the next few years to all kinds of clubs, and not just Harley clubs, that identify themselves with club logos and do things that remotely threaten "law enforcement." Think historical shooter societies, remote-control flying clubs, hunting clubs. While the vast majority if not all of them may be innocent of criminal activity, law enforcement has a method to categorize them into a certain kind of group, identify the emblems they wear as insignia of a criminal group, and the MSM presents a these clubs only idenfied as as "criminals according to police experts" -- taking years to sort out the truth, while the liveliehoods of the targets are permanently crippled, reputations smeared, and "arrest records" established for further demonization.

Even if every single one of these Waco folks are found totally innocent, it is too late. That's the beauty of this model for the authoritarian tyrants using it -- it will always be too late for the individuals harmed, once they're are arrested and subjected to "investigation" and the media circus propagandizing gullible citizens shifts into gear.

22 posted on 06/20/2015 3:57:10 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: bgill
Maybe one of them is dead -- according to a story about the 12 Cossacks and 15 Bandidos whose vehicles have been seized, the Cossack who came and told another Cossack to be sure to bring extra guys in case there was trouble, was killed in the "shootout."

Did the Bandido-side bikers that, according to a witness, blew past the six cop cars and started blasting after being offered an old-fashioned rumble in the parking lot with fisticuffs, brass knuckles, and batons, think the cops were just going to ignore them? Maybe so -- Bandidos were barely in the death count, if at all.

Did the Texas Cossacks, who according to every single police report I can find are guilty ONLY of being subjected to harassment and attack from Bandidos solely for wearing a patch saying "Texas," hardly against the law, and then engaging in illegal-by-definition retaliation solely against Bandidos for the attacks, think the police were going to back them up?

After all, the police hadn't done much except try to "ease tensions between the two clubs" in terms of stopping the Bandidos from forcefully preventing people from doing something perfectly legal and within their rights.

These are just trees in a raging forest fire. The pretense for arresting a whole lot of bikers regardless of criminality and causing extreme personal damage to private citizens in a distinct demographic was successfully accomplished and quite plainly, there will few if any negative consequences for the authorities/cops/feds who did it.

24 posted on 06/20/2015 4:20:37 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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