Posted on 06/20/2015 12:21:51 PM PDT by Elderberry
WACO - On a recent Sunday, a Cossacks Motorcycle Club officer nicknamed Diesel sipped a Diet Dr Pepper on the patio of Twin Peaks and broke the news to his son, who was also a member.
The 63 Cossacks and their supporters at the restaurant were not just waiting to have lunch with fellow bikers from around Central Texas. They had come for a special sit down with the Bandidos, to hash out an ongoing dispute.
Before their meal arrived, Diesel was shot, execution-style, with two bullets to the back of his head.
Cody Ledbetter, 26, survived the May 17 melee that left nine people dead, 18 wounded and 177 charged with engaging in organized crime.
His first-hand account of his father's death - and what played out just before and after - was shared with the Houston Chronicle from his home in Waco.
He disputes any contention by Waco police that there was a planned brawl between rival motorcycle gangs. He says the Cossacks were not expecting to fight. Instead, tough talk quickly escalated to bullets.
(Excerpt) Read more at houstonchronicle.com ...
17:30:
“The Outlaws feigned nice and invited the Hells Angels to their clubhouse for a beer. At one point one of the Outlaws got up and said ‘You know what, we don’t drink beer with bastards like you.’. And they pulled out their guns and ...”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLG0qMTJop8
“And they pulled out their guns and ...”
Hmmmmm
“in fact Angels were seen at Candy-man Rodriguez’s funeral “
Rodriguez may have been responsible for the second and third deaths at the scene. Diesel and Dog.
In that event: If he was shot by a Cossack, it would likely be self-defense.
In that event: If he was shot by a cop, it was justified because he was killing other bikers.
So just why were H-Angels at his funeral?? Are they playing both sides, and then picking the winner??
“So just why were H-Angels at his funeral?? Are they playing both sides, and then picking the winner??”
Eight Cossacks dead. Winner decided?
But are not the Bandidos and Hell’s Angels mortal enemies? If they are now making a pact, our dear Republic and honest citizens have very much to fear. And . . . might I go out on a limb to say . . . more to fear than the Waco PD and County DA. OR?!? Yes let due process proceed in Waco by ALL means. But a Bandido - HA pact is not something anyone who loves liberty and the law should take lightly.
Hells Angels have the nerve to hold public event in Pagan territory ...
So much for the claim that biker gangs won’t hold warfare in the public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgN92jHI4mY
I can’t really answer that question...but there has been a lot of chatter about MC ‘unity’ in the last few weeks and funerals are typically considered a neutral zone.
It sounds like the action was over in about two minutes. Is it your theory that after the LEOs had the scene under control the undercover decided to put on his vest and grab a rifle?
If he wasn’t undercover, what in the hell was he doing dressed like that, sans the vest and the rifle?
Do you doubt that u/c were on the job on 5/17? I would consider it gross incompetence if there were not.
What troubles me is that that Stroman’s men were sitting in their vehicles when the violent altercation began. The violent altercation was preceded by escalating tensions and ominous movement on the patio. (The reading of the property seizure affidavit clearly indicates that it was created from a review of videos. I am not convinced that the uniformed cops knew what was happening until the first shot was fired.)
If the uniforms DID know of the dynamic situation evolving, why did they not bring some units into the parking lot before shots were fired?
Detective maybe? Not all police are uniformed.
Why not a DPS Ranger? They don't even have official uniforms.
Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgN92jHI4mY
The second film about the Bandidos:
Apparently, the Bandidos reacted at Waco exactly as expected by their code.
A Bandido Club President was “disrespected” by Cossacks who spoke up against the Bandido President running into a Cossack Prospect as he pulled up on his bike and parked.
The Sgt at Arms of that Bandido Chapter shot Richie (a Cossack) at point blank range.
The Sgt at Arms did what he was “supposed” to do when his President was “disrespected.” It’s loyalty first, and worry about the repercussions later.
It didn’t matter that there were cop cars in view. It didn’t matter that there were civilians present. That was irrelevant to the Sgt at Arms who at that moment according to his code had to act to prevent disrespect to his President and his Club. After all, OMGs are above civilians, above the law, above other gangs . . .
The original purpose of the meeting didn’t matter, nothing else mattered. It didn’t matter if they all got arrested — or even in some of them died or were wounded because that is accepted as a condition of being a member, when the honor of the club is the issue.
Those who were arrested would not snitch, would do their time, and come back as Bandido members in good standing.
It all makes sense according to the internal logic and code of the 1% gangs.
re previous post.
I thought I understood something about gangs, reading the words printed about them. Still, when we read words, we are in the intellectual realm, interpreting and filtering the meaning of the words in light of other information in our brains, our understanding of human nature, common sense, etc.
Hearing the code explained from their own mouths, seeing the expressions on their faces as they speak those words . . . well, I now not only “understand” the code, I “get it.”
Human life itself is worth less than the honor of the gang.
Their wives and families are less important than their duties to the gang.
They are willing to sit in jail rather than cooperate with the police investigation — it is one for all and all for one. They would rather not be in jail, but they’re willing to be in jail than give the cops anything against any member of the gang or the gang itself.
Interesting a former Bandido was asked if there were any regular good guys in the Bandidos. He said he had not met any. There were Bandidos who would put on an external facade of being a law-abiding good guy, but he knew of none who really were good guys.
“It didn’t matter that there were cop cars in view. It didn’t matter that there were civilians present.”
When a fight goes down, everyone joins in whatever the circumstances.
We are told here that Waco was not a gang fight since the clubs kept it private. But documentary after documentary shows the opposite.
“If he wasn’t undercover, what in the hell was he doing dressed like that, sans the vest and the rifle?”
If he WAS undercover, what in the hell was he doing parading around in the open like that with vest and rifle?
” I am not convinced that the uniformed cops knew what was happening until the first shot was fired.) If the uniforms DID know of the dynamic situation evolving, why did they not bring some units into the parking lot before shots were fired?”
You answered your own question.
“Bring on the biker boot lickers!”
The boot-licking Hussein heads are EAGER to do the bidding of their racist anti-American god-king in the White Hut, as long as the AP’s headlines don’t obviously relate to politics.
“The boot-licking Hussein heads are EAGER to do the bidding of their racist anti-American god-king in the White Hut, as long as the AP’s headlines don’t obviously relate to politics.”
Hmmm. Which side is supporting White-only gangs that fly the confederate battle flag and wear Nazi patches ...
Yeah, right! He was a detective, that’s the ticket!
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