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To: SoFloFreeper

Just as many gun owners don’t commit mass killings, the majority of people on suboxone or other drugs don’t commit mass killings.

The killing is the problem. Not the drugs. Do you really think that if we ban all psychiatric drugs that mass shootings will stop? Could it be that these people are crazy enough that even anti-psychotic medications can’t stop them from being psychotic?

Despite all our best efforts, when you have a populace as large as we have, some outliers are going to pop up and do abnormal things. Do you think an anthill never has an ant that goes off the rails and doesn’t do what it is supposed to? Maybe even kills a few ants? Chimpanzees kill other animals all the time. Baboons are violent violent creatures. We can’t stop all deranged individuals in our society, whether it be from banning guns or drugs or any other convenient scapegoat we can come up with. In a society with billions of individuals, some of them are going to be defective in a way that affects other individuals.

More guns, or metal detectors in more public places will probably be a better fix than trying to pinpoint ways that the outliers may cause harm.

If this particular church had had a metal detector at the door, this probably wouldn’t have occurred within its doors. Would he have maybe sat outside and picked them off instead? Highly likely. Would more guns among the innocent have helped? Most likely, but who knows, panic may have occurred and more people might have ended up dead.

Horrific shit is going to happen. It’s the nature of a planet with billions of people on it.


4 posted on 06/18/2015 5:05:38 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: arbitrary.squid

> the majority of people on suboxone or other drugs don’t commit mass killings.

They sometimes do when cops play doctor and cut those drugs off cold turkey for the War on Drugs.


8 posted on 06/18/2015 5:15:27 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: arbitrary.squid

I agree. The Founding Fathers made note of that, too.


11 posted on 06/18/2015 5:18:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
"Do you think an anthill never has an ant that goes off the rails and doesn’t do what it is supposed to? Maybe even kills a few ants?"

No.

23 posted on 06/18/2015 5:45:12 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: arbitrary.squid

Are you a lawyer?


40 posted on 06/18/2015 6:25:13 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: arbitrary.squid
If this particular church had had a metal detector at the door, this probably wouldn’t have occurred within its doors

Disarming the honest people never ends well.

43 posted on 06/18/2015 7:22:36 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: arbitrary.squid

it does same something when most of these killers...at least the white ones....are on prescribed drugs....suboxone
is not prescribed lightly.


52 posted on 06/18/2015 8:31:59 PM PDT by cherry
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To: arbitrary.squid

uh, I never said we should ban the drugs. All I pointed out was that it appears this murderer was apparently on them.

This seems to make him akin to Adam Lanza, another apparent murderer on drugs.

Trying to make some comparisons. :)


64 posted on 06/19/2015 2:01:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: arbitrary.squid; elpadre
I cannot find the article but, I read somewhere today that 31 of the most recent mass killings have been committed by persons on psychiatric drugs. And that psychiatrists tell LE to hide that from the public in fear that those on the drugs may stop using them.

Interesting.

65 posted on 06/19/2015 2:03:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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