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To: detective; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

Do YOU really believe what MSN says?

I don’t. And many Catholics on FR don’t either.


391 posted on 06/20/2015 6:13:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Even worse, this is a reprint from the Guardian on MSN.


395 posted on 06/20/2015 6:26:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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I'm sitting here wondering what has happened to my Church. Frankly, I've been disaffected since Vatican II. My hopes were rekindled during the Papacies of JPII and BXVI. Since Francis has assumed authority, those hopes have been all but dashed.

Will I stay in the Church? Yes. There is no home for me outside the Roman Catholic Church.

Will I march in lockstep to the ukases of this Pope? No, but if he makes pronouncements ex cathedra that change core teachings of the Church, I will have to re-evaluate my stand.


397 posted on 06/20/2015 6:34:32 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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Not at all. I pray for the Pope but he needs to be more careful who he chooses to advise him to say the least.


402 posted on 06/20/2015 7:18:50 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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Nope.


403 posted on 06/20/2015 7:48:44 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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Do YOU really believe what MSN says?

Sadly, many of the US bishops are doing just that. Political lobbying to implement the most radical possible interpretation of this encyclical.

408 posted on 06/21/2015 2:17:29 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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I believe that Princess Pelosi will be saying to the Pope: “Frankie baby, welcome to the golowbull warming band wagon. Now if you will only get your act together on following my lead regarding making the Catholic Church pro=abortion, I’ll forgive you of your sins.”


423 posted on 06/21/2015 10:11:42 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, ...
(Psa 2:1-2 KJV)

The media generally no longer are interested in anything like the truth. It's not that they strain out gnats and swallow camels. It's that they ignore camels, inflate gnats to the size of camels, and then try to force them down our throats.

Regrettably, even Catholics engage in the same thing, running around, waving their hands in the air, and screaming because some sentence somewhere can be construed as ... somehow undesirable.

You have to glean carefully.

519 posted on 06/22/2015 1:52:57 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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Francis is, of course acting in reaction to much of what was done by John Paul Ii and Benedict XVI. Those of us who preferred the teachings of those men will take much of what he says with a grain of salt.


527 posted on 06/23/2015 9:18:45 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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“Do YOU really believe what MSN says?”

No. I don't believe anything MSN or the MSM says.

But the article contained a direct quote from the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops that I find very troubling.

““It is our marching orders for advocacy,” Joseph Kurtz, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Archbishop of Louisville, said. “It really brings about a new urgency for us.”

Representatives of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops said they would hold two briefings for members of Congress on Thursday and visit the White House on Friday to promote and explain the Pope’s environmental message.

Those efforts will get a new injection of urgency, when the Pope delivers a much-anticipated address to Congress during his visit to the US in September, church leaders said.”

536 posted on 06/24/2015 1:34:33 PM PDT by detective
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