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To: daniel1212
If you can judge the pope then so can I, but prove that you can publicly dissent from non-infallible teaching such as papal encyclicals. And if you can be right over the pope based upon evidence of historical teaching, why cannot a Prot?

Simple. I disagree with the Pope about a matter (Is the Earth warming?) on which the Catholic Church teaches NOTHING.

You disagree with the Pope on matters on which the Catholic Church teaches infallibly.

345 posted on 06/19/2015 8:25:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
I disagree with the Pope about a matter (Is the Earth warming?) on which the Catholic Church teaches NOTHING.

Oh?

Then try to convince the NON-catholic world that this encyclical; that has just been published; with the FULL approval of the Catholic Church of Rome; that is teaching NOTHING.

356 posted on 06/20/2015 3:38:34 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Simple. I disagree with the Pope about a matter (Is the Earth warming?) on which the Catholic Church teaches NOTHING.

No, you rejected the entire encyclical as having nothing to do with Catholic faith, and were shown to be wrong, and which deals with more than Climate Change, but how Catholic faith is to respond to that as well as other societal dangers on which the Catholic church has addressed.

And there was a time that the Catholic church taught nothing ministerially about the sun being the center of the universe, interpretive of Scripture. After it did, even if not infallibly, then it became a matter of obedience. Now it is spoken about Climate Change, but you consider your judgment superior to the pope. And Pius X did not limit obedience to the pope to infallible teaching. No wonder you are called a Protestant. You disagree with the Pope on matters on which the Catholic Church teaches infallibly.

No, it is not simple at all, as in both cases the basis for our disagreement is that of personally examining the evidence for such from our authoritative sources. In so doing we reject as valid teaching the novel premise of ensured magisterial infallibility, as being absent and non-essential in Scripture to provide, discern and preserve faith. You likewise reject certain teachings as being as being valid teaching due to personally examining the evidence for such from your authoritative sources.

373 posted on 06/20/2015 2:12:59 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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