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To: TangibleDisgust
Sorry, but I can't agree. He hasn't been in the Vatican his whole life. He was politically active in Argentina. The previous Kirchner considered him a political rival. He speaks how many languages? Four? Five? He's a Jesuit. That's the elite.

He's not stupid and he's not naive.

135 posted on 06/18/2015 3:17:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: FredZarguna

twice you’ve called jesuits the “elite” of the church.

that smacks of some sort of conspiracy nonsense of which i’m not well versed. in fact, it sounds like the sort of thing one would find in a book by Dan Brown.

just to be clear, there is no “elite order” in the church. Catholics are just Catholics. there are different orders that those who are called to serve can join, and they have different goals/callings, but none are above or beneath any other. the jesuits tend to be involved in education. i find them to be the most liberal order from my own experience and don’t much care for what’s happened to jesuit universities since Vatican II (aside - i’m an alum of one such university), but that doesn’t mean that the current pope is in favor of population control, which is what i think you’re implying. that alone would put him in stark contrast with a fundamental teaching of the church and would disqualify him even from being a priest, much less the pope!

is the pope liberal by US political definitions? yes. is he a socialist? maybe. is he deliberately aiding and abetting the forces determined to undermine the teachings of the church? no (or at least i hope not, because maybe then we would be facing the end of times).


163 posted on 06/18/2015 4:27:59 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust (The Parmesan doesn't go like that.)
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To: FredZarguna

By Pope standards, Bergoglio is an uneducated man. He has no philosophy and theology other than the crash courses that all priests get. He is nearly monolingual. I.e., he speaks Spanish and halting Italian. No English, at least when he was elected.


254 posted on 06/19/2015 6:02:13 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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