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Good, bad or ugly.
The GOP now owns this bill with 190 GOP reps voting for this bill in the house.
my head hurts from this issue. I believe Cruz. But most are not going to take the time to read what’s going on. We are a very reactionary country. As are all people I guess.
This bill will create jobs in some areas and take away in others. Adjusting is what life is all about, I guess. I could be wrong.
This is all about irresponsibility. They are giving the kool aid decision to Obama who they might as well call Rabi Auschwitz.
When Cruz states the United State has not signed on to the immigration sections of TPP, just exactly who is he talking about ? Obama’s lawyers ? Our legislators have had no input into TPP.
Yeah Ted, the US Constitution wasn’t a living document when it was signed either.
Sorry. Cruz' points may be in theory, not in current reality. Some one else put it like this (h/t: sevenwheel)
I've lived in and around Chicago my entire life, and what we have been seeing during the course of the Obama administration is very familiar. The administration is attempting to recast the United States Congress into a national version of the Chicago City Council, with the President playing the part of the Mayor.
Chicago has, in theory, a legislative body, the City Council, that in theory drafts, debates and votes on city ordinances. The political reality is quite different. The Aldermen do not draft ordinances or craft legislation. All ordinances and legislation come directly from the Mayor's office. The Aldermen are expected and required to vote lockstep with the mayor. In exchange, they are given enough political power to dish out political favors and enough financial support to defeat their opposition and remain Aldermen for life. They can make calls to get potholes fixed, move permits through City Hall, get broken trash cans replaced, and get extra police patrols. They get unofficial veto power over liquor licenses and business licenses. Corruption is tolerated and overlooked, and in a certain sense expected and required for those seeking to advance in City government. Anyone who votes against the Mayor, or tries to fight corruption, or seems too clean to trust finds themselves shut out. ..... (you can read more at link)
The Republicans are mounting the most egregious betrayal of their country in history. Ted Cruz is right with them. That talking point crap can’t spin it away.
Right now it’s not an agreement at all, Ted.
And a very strong bipartisan cross section of the country prefers that it remain not an agreement.
Do you believe in government representing the people, or in government representing your wife’s very lucrative employment?
Pick one, and only one.
Does the president know that Senator? The ObamaCare law has been changed, delayed, ignored dozens of times, by this president and no one in either House has done one thing to prevent it.
Tell us SoCon, what do YOU really think of TPP?
Can you guarantee that it will be beneficial to the United States as whole and to us lowly American Citizens as individuals?
Or does it sell us down the river to the Chinese and every other country that signed it?
Do you actually believe that Obama negotiated a treaty that benefits the United States?
I’m not buying. I have been a Cruz fan but this sticks in my craw.
This does NOT stop obola.
While this is technically correct (it does not FORCE congress to change laws) it results in the loss of sovereignty.
Last week congress voted to remove country of origin labels from meat following a WTO ruling courtesy of NAFTA. This was done to prevent trade sanctions. The GrammLeachBliley Act, which repealed restrictions between commercial and investment banking (GlassSteagall Act), turning the entire industry into a Wall street casino was also necessary for NAFTA compliance.
Free trade "treaties" are a direct assault against our sovereignty.
You pretty much need "fast track" in order to get any negotiated treaty passed, because you can't have a finished treaty be amended by congress, since that would require that version to be resubmitted back to the treaty partners for approval.
That said, it doesn't remove the Constitutional necessity of having a 2/3 majority to approve them.
Calling them "trade agreements" to get around the 2/3 requirements rather than simply having up/down votes on them as treaties is dishonest. Of course anyone who looks for honesty from our government is a fool who will ultimately be disappointed. Our feral government will do what it wants, when it wants to get what will most quickly enrich the oligarchy.
I think Cruz would have done better to have fought this from the perspective of this undermining of Constitutional authority. That would put him clearly on the side of supporting a 'fast track' provision for treaty negotiations, while at the same time opposing this particular legislation because it undermines the Constitution and the Senate's advice and consent powers/requirements.
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The more he spins this issue, the more he convinces people they’re being hustled.