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Ted Cruz makes personal link to military sexual assault reform
Houston Chronicle ^ | June 16, 2015 | Jennifer Reiley

Posted on 06/17/2015 9:28:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 06/17/2015 9:28:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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2 posted on 06/17/2015 9:28:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Not sure what the best route is to tamp false accusations. They need not prosecute anyone without evidence.


3 posted on 06/17/2015 9:31:47 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe

Cruz hasn’t served a day in the military and doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about.

The chain of command is exactly where allegations in a military setting should first be heard.

Turning prosecution and investigation over to others is a terrible precedent.

When Beau Bergdahl deserted, who had the right info? The president, the lawyers, the generals. Heck no...it was the troops in his own squad.

He doesn’t have a clue on this.


4 posted on 06/17/2015 9:32:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wanna reduce sex assault my orders of magnitude? Screen out Liberals.

Who commits the vast majority of straight sexual assault? Liberals.

Who commits ALL of the gay sexual assault? Liberals.

Who commits the most crime period?

L I B E R A L S.

Get rid of them from the ranks and crime and most issues in the military simply leave with them.


5 posted on 06/17/2015 9:34:51 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins

Therein lies the issue. How many times have we heard that superiors in these instances do NOTHING? It is quite a bit.


6 posted on 06/17/2015 9:36:18 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: xzins

Sex is more a private matter where the troops would not have the right info. On one hand, Cruz has a point with conflict of interest. On the other hand, there should be no prosecution unless there is evidence and many if not most rape accusations are false. I’m a little torn on this one. Hopefully Ted will expand on his position. It is a little ambiguous.


7 posted on 06/17/2015 9:36:41 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: TNMOUTH

What do expect superiors to do without evidence? Throw the accused in prison at the word of the accuser?


8 posted on 06/17/2015 9:38:09 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SoConPubbie

Makes sense to me.

Seems like the immediate commanding officer has an interest in making sure his command goes smoothly even if it means ignoring things that should be reported.


9 posted on 06/17/2015 9:38:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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They need not prosecute anyone without evidence.

If they'd just gone with the testimony of the troops at Haditha, instead of going with reporters, lawyers, politicians and politicized generals, Haditha would have been dropped.

The local units did their own investigation and found the Haditha combatants not just innocent but worthy of praise.

Guess who turned out to be right? The troops on the ground.

Cruz is a lawyer, and he's supplied a totally disconnected lawyer's answer.

10 posted on 06/17/2015 9:38:49 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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Seems like the immediate commanding officer has an interest in making sure his command goes smoothly even if it means ignoring things that should be reported.

Bingo!
11 posted on 06/17/2015 9:39:34 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins

Exactly. He will also tell us a lot of BS about his father fighting in Cuba that does not add up.


12 posted on 06/17/2015 9:39:40 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: wolfman23601

No, of course not. But you are being blinded as well that all of the accused who are guilty are punished. The military turning a blind eye to things like this has been well documented


13 posted on 06/17/2015 9:40:18 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: wolfman23601
Not sure what the best route is to tamp false accusations. They need not prosecute anyone without evidence.

I'm with you on that one.
14 posted on 06/17/2015 9:40:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: wolfman23601

The troops know or at least have invaluable insight.

It should begin with the lowest levels: company, battalion, brigade. Period.

That’s the history of the nation. This is simply choosing lawyers over the guys in boots who are on the scene.


15 posted on 06/17/2015 9:40:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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Having done countless 15-6 investigations and presiding over a couple of Article 32s, I must say I am not a huge fan of the current system.

They assign officers to perform these investigations who, like myself, have no experience in investigations, court room procedures, etc.

There has to be a better way of investigating potential wrong doing.


16 posted on 06/17/2015 9:42:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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the immediate commanding officer has an interest in making sure his command goes smoothly

Exactly the opposite. The immediate command is respected for honesty, integrity, and attention to detail.

17 posted on 06/17/2015 9:42:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

He supplied a feminist pandering answer, whether that was his intent or not. He has my 100% support, but what he said here doesn’t make a lot of sense. I hope he means he would turn it over to a prosecuter once there is evidence. The false rape witch hunts are the biggest issue concerning America with regards to rape.


18 posted on 06/17/2015 9:43:02 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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And I’m betting that your best info came from the troops.


19 posted on 06/17/2015 9:44:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: wolfman23601

Dear Ted, Most rapes are male on male-—since before the Spartans. Rape is domination and males are the target for most males unlsss the extremely weak, immoral ones who pick on women or children.

CHANGE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM-—as Cicero stated was NECESSARY for a JUST society. PROMOTE “public virtue” as all Just Law HAS to do.

No sodomy (vice) promotion-—no Pride in Vice days-—NONE-—only moral-—Natural Laws-—promotion of Individual dignity and worth-—NO DEHUMANIZING, vile behaviors can be protected-—or ideologies like Marxism allowed-— which think of humans as godless animals to be herded and controlled.

We can’t have any immoral people in the army-—power tends to corrupt anyhow and non-christians do not believe in Individual Natural Rights form God-—basis of US Law—that which gives ALL human beings dignity and worth and equal Rights which ONLY come from God.


20 posted on 06/17/2015 9:44:07 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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