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Biker Thug or Innocent Victim of Waco Police? Watch & Decide!
Breitbart Texas ^ | June 16, 2015 | Lee Stranahan

Posted on 06/16/2015 11:25:51 AM PDT by don-o

The controversy over the Waco 170 continues as mre info comes out about the people who were arrested after the deadly May 15th shooting incident outside a biker event in Waco, Texas.

Now with this exclusive interview with one of the arrested, you can make up your own mind.

Did the Waco police overstep their authority and arrest innocent people? Or did they do the right thing and bust over 170 dangerous bikers?

It’s one thing to read about it. Watch our interview with Matt Clendennen and if you can figure out who’s telling the truth: the police or the bikers?

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: breitbarttexas; texas; waco; wacobikers
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To: WayneS

The investigator pockets must have been full!


81 posted on 06/16/2015 1:12:03 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: WayneS
I believe the full context is there. Note that I included the rest: continuing to be held on $1,000,000 bond after 3-4 weeks.

Unfortunately, a missing <p> ran that into my own commentary.

82 posted on 06/16/2015 1:12:44 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: thefactor
Allow the hundreds of bikers with over 1,000 weapons to fight it out in the middle of a public restaurant

I really haven't noticed much mention that the Twin Peaks location was in close proximity to many other businesses. Nothing like heading out to Cabela's, or Cavendar's, or Ross Dress for Less, and hearing gunfire way too close for comfort.

83 posted on 06/16/2015 1:12:56 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: thefactor

Follow-up:

Waco is the 22nd largest city in Texas. It hardly qualifies as a “small town”.


84 posted on 06/16/2015 1:14:29 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: WayneS
NINE people were killed. Nine. And 170 arrested. You'll forgive a judge setting a high bail for all of them.

I wonder if we'd all be having this same conversation if nine members of inner-city Los Angeles gangs were killed (maybe all by police). My guess is you'd be applauding that. But I've been wrong before.

85 posted on 06/16/2015 1:14:47 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: don-o

Well, I hate to bring this up when everybody is having so much fun, but has anyone actually taken the time to view the Clendennen news conference?

At 20+ minutes it’s probably way too long for some of the attention spans here, so you might want to skip the first 12 minutes when Clendennen is talking (since he rides a motorcycle and must therefore be a lying criminal).

The rest of the interview is assorted lawyers talking and that part is actually interesting since there are some references to civil rights, the Constitution and such nonsense.

Matt Clendennen News Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPCN_eeDMqI


86 posted on 06/16/2015 1:14:50 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: WayneS

I’m in NYC. If 170 people were arrested all at once it would cause a massive backlog. And I assume our court system is much larger than Waco’s.


87 posted on 06/16/2015 1:16:10 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
So....by your logic. Any crime scene...the cops find. Everyone should be locked up.

You said, All of these guys were wearing patches at the same time and place

ALL these guys were wearing patches...??...You got any proof of that...or are you just lying?

This was one instance and these men were all connected and were part of an active crime scene.

Connected how? Motorcycles? Leather jackets? Beards? What????

Are you a cop?

88 posted on 06/16/2015 1:16:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: JJ_Folderol

Had not seen this thanks for posting it! Got it playing now.

The video attached to the Breitbart piece here is not this one.


89 posted on 06/16/2015 1:17:57 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: sockmonkey

I saw a “Bed Bath and Beyond” store in some of the photos from the scene. I think the restaurant is part of a reasonably large shopping center.

I also think law enfarcement officers did most of the shooting that day, despite claims by the Waco police that they only fired 12 rounds.


90 posted on 06/16/2015 1:18:48 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: Prolixus

Think about this.

The cops were basically laying in wait, watching and observing.

That makes the cops witnesses.

Since these cops were witnesses and in fact opened fire on several individuals, do they not have a damn good idea who the few individuals were allegedly fighting? They shot at them right?

It begs the question, if they had a damn good idea who caused the trouble why take all 170 people into custody and then charge them ALL with felonies?

This is total bull sh*t.


91 posted on 06/16/2015 1:19:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: thefactor

It may be debatable whether or not he should have been arrested but the $1,000,000 bail that was set is a violation of the 8th amendment.

For the third time, didn’t you take an oath pledging to support the U.S. Constitution? It’s not a small thing to take that oath.


92 posted on 06/16/2015 1:23:07 PM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: Osage Orange

If there were patrons in the restaurant who were not a part of these gangs in any way and they were locked up for almost two weeks, then you have a point. But from what I’ve seen in the pics and read in articles, those arrested were wearing vests.


93 posted on 06/16/2015 1:23:35 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Police in the city of New York arrest 140 people per day for marijuana possession.

Arresting 170 people at once would barely cause a hitch in their system.

However, even if the “poor little town” of Waco can only handle preliminary hearings for 8 people a day (that’s two judges at two hours per hearing per day), they should still have been able to process almost everyone who was arrested that day, and either bring specific charges, lower their bonds, or release them without charges, by now.

I live in a County with a population of 27,000 people and we have three judges available to hear cases in our Courthouse.


94 posted on 06/16/2015 1:27:31 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: FredZarguna
I don't shrug the detention off at all. It's a violation of the Eighth Amendment.

Absolutely right, without a doubt... And the RICO styled charge along with it, used so very indiscriminately.

But that is a separate question from the one: "in a violent melee, should everybody be arrested?" Probably so if there's a public safety issue. What is the compelling reason now to continue holding them?

I agree completely. Shutting it down might well take brutal force (tho that is still a question), and may well require a 'sweep and hold' to sort it out. But that holding action should be remedied with all possible haste, and those not involved should be immediately released. And they have vid, as well as gang profiling and direct knowledge of troublemakers, so there can be no excuse.

Sorry, but thefactor's "paperwork" excuse won't fly. Frankly, it sounds like something the hard-nosed cop in a bad movie would say to excuse his own criminality.

Agreed. The whole 'kill them all, let God sort them out' thing has never been a righteous method... and this sort of thing can lead to that method in a surprisingly short time... Hence my alertness and concern.

95 posted on 06/16/2015 1:27:49 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: thefactor
...those arrested were wearing vests.

I hope you understand how ridiculous that sounds.

96 posted on 06/16/2015 1:28:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Help! Save me from the people who want to save me!)
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To: thefactor
I’m in NYC

Ahh. That explains a lot.

97 posted on 06/16/2015 1:31:09 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Osage Orange

IIRC, he claims to be a cop, or has so claimed in the past.


98 posted on 06/16/2015 1:31:12 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DCBryan1

You left out the deadly full automatic nail clippers. Yep, nail clippers were actually reported in the confiscated weapons list.


99 posted on 06/16/2015 1:31:25 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: dragnet2

It’s typical government vindictive conduct, because they can. The judges enable the thugs.


100 posted on 06/16/2015 1:32:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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