[tophat9000]

This is the left problem..

They have no external point of reference for reasoned thinking and logic....

Their logic is now all self referencing, a logic feedback loop of fallacy

And so that's what caused them to become a hoisted by their own petard

[agere_contra]

They have no external point of reference... their logic is an endless feedback loop of self-referential fallacy

I liked where you went with this, very Chestertonian. So I'm toying with it, seeing if I can make it 'flow'.