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Cruz, Paul push for ban on indefinite detention of US citizens
The Hill ^ | June 12, 2015, 02:38 pm | Jordain Carney

Posted on 06/15/2015 1:07:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Two 2016 presidential competitors have joined forces to get a ban on the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens included in an annual defense policy bill.

Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.), both of whom are running for president, have joined up with other senators to introduce an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), currently before the Senate, that would ban indefinite detention of U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents, without being charged or given a trial, unless authorized by Congress.

Sens. Mike Lee (R-Utah), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) also put their names on the provision.

"The Constitution does not allow President Obama, or any President, to apprehend an American citizen, arrested on U.S. soil, and detain these citizens indefinitely without a trial,” Cruz said in a statement. “While we must vigorously protect national security by pursuing violent terrorists and preventing acts of terror, we must also ensure our most basic rights as American citizens are protected.”

The senators added that they hoped the amendment would clarify "ongoing legal ambiguities," including that idea that Americans can be indefinitely detained under the 2001 authorization for the use of military force, which authorized military operations against al Qaeda.

The senators note that the 2001 authorization "cannot be construed as acts of Congress that permit indefinite detention."

Paul added, "We can and will vigorously investigate and prosecute all who seek to do us harm, and we can do so while respecting the constitutional liberties of American citizens.”Paul and Cruz have argued that previous NDAAs have given the administration the ability to indefinitely detain Americans.

The senators got a similar amendment included in the Senate's NDAA in 2012, but it wasn't in the final bill signed by President Obama.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; california; carlyfiorina; cruz; diannefeinstein; election2016; maine; mikelee; ndaa; randpaul; susancollins; tedcruz; texas; thekycandidate; utah
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1 posted on 06/15/2015 1:07:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; aposiopetic; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

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    CRUZ or LOSE!

2 posted on 06/15/2015 1:07:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

There’s one I can agree with Paul on.


3 posted on 06/15/2015 1:08:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (You vote for your TPP supporter and I'll vote for mine.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Okay, let’s hear how Rand is “principled” but Ted is “pandering” by doing this...


4 posted on 06/15/2015 1:09:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: cripplecreek
There’s one I can agree with Paul on.

Me too.

It's not that Rand Paul is right on a lot of things, it's just that he is also Wrong on a lot of things. Not just one or two, a lot of things.
5 posted on 06/15/2015 1:11:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Tryin’ to kill the brown vote early are they? Next thing you know Hillary’s hair will be black, she’ll have a helluva a tan, and be wearing brown colored contacts...it’ll be Rachel Dolezal all over again only done Mexican style


6 posted on 06/15/2015 1:12:13 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SoConPubbie

What about Waco ??!


7 posted on 06/15/2015 1:12:18 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yeah. I agree, he’s right about many things but goes wildly off the rails on things like voter ID, felon voting, Pandering to Sharpton etc.


8 posted on 06/15/2015 1:15:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (You vote for your TPP supporter and I'll vote for mine.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ll live with it (uneasily) but is too late in several locations nationwide.


9 posted on 06/15/2015 1:15:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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To: jsanders2001

Fo’shizzle


10 posted on 06/15/2015 1:15:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (You vote for your TPP supporter and I'll vote for mine.)
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To: George from New England
What about Waco ??!

What about Waco?
11 posted on 06/15/2015 1:19:09 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

A core plank of the criticism the democRATs had of Bush’s treatment of TERRORISTS was they were being detained indefinitely. Now it takes Republicans to denounce the indefinite detention of American citizens by the Obama Regime?


12 posted on 06/15/2015 1:27:55 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s not even that Rand isn’t right in some of those situations where we end up disagreeing. He also often takes it too far. He has a fair point to say we made a bad decision in going to Iraq. I can see justifications to go to war, and reasons why we shouldn’t have. The problem with Paul, is he’ll take that argument and with go full leftie saying it was oil, or he’ll say ISIS only exists because of us. That’s horse crap, and it’s leftist nonsense.


13 posted on 06/15/2015 1:33:43 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: South40

Met with one detained under ‘patriot act’. Was not a ‘terrorist’; was simply an IT ‘professional. He was criticized because he called ‘illegal immigration’ BAD, in a blog. Criticized and was jailed as a ‘terrorist’ under the ‘patriot act’. True story ...


14 posted on 06/15/2015 1:36:00 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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To: ilgipper

He has a fair point to say we made a bad decision in going to Iraq....What is it?


15 posted on 06/15/2015 1:36:09 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: SoConPubbie

This bit troubles me: “...without being charged or given a trial, unless authorized by Congress.”

That is the definition of an unconstitutional bill of attainder. “The effect of such a bill is to nullify the targeted person’s civil rights.”

So, say a simple majority of both Democrat controlled houses of congress say so, the president can order “detained” any conservative they want to without habeus corpus.


16 posted on 06/15/2015 1:41:07 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

yep, you are starting to catch on to what is taking place .... Watch your back-doors ....


17 posted on 06/15/2015 1:43:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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To: SoConPubbie

“While we must vigorously protect national security by pursuing violent terrorists and preventing acts of terror, we must also ensure our most basic rights as American citizens are protected.”

Who said that.....oh I see, Ted Cruz - the next real President of the United States.

~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race.


18 posted on 06/15/2015 1:46:58 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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welcome America to the prison yards where they do what they want with you ... carry on ... remember those that lie will swear you lie.


19 posted on 06/15/2015 1:48:57 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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To: SoConPubbie

No words will help many of US to speak our troubled minds ... May there be a ‘way to go’


20 posted on 06/15/2015 1:53:51 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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