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To: 9YearLurker

Will you stop it with conflating a vote for the TPA as having voted for the TPP?

Crud, what is wrong with so many FReepers? Are all of you nuts?


22 posted on 06/14/2015 6:52:33 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
Will you stop it with conflating a vote for the TPA as having voted for the TPP?

Problem is, that if TPA passes, then the top-secret TPP sails through too...

35 posted on 06/14/2015 6:57:13 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ConservativeMind

No—the whole point of TPP is to grease the skids so that a vote for TPP (and TiSA and T-TiP) is all but inevitable.

You’re the one falling for the ruse that voting for TPP isn’t more or less voting to guarantee the passage of TPP, TiSA, and T-TiP.

The GOP does this all the time. They vote for the procedures that assure Democrats a victory, and then say, “But we didn’t vote for that!”


43 posted on 06/14/2015 7:01:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ConservativeMind

0bama can not be trusted with TPA. Neither is an improvement in actual Free Trade in the offing. Neither is giving TPA to the first 4 years of the H! POTUS debacle warranted at this time.


67 posted on 06/14/2015 7:18:15 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: ConservativeMind

Will you stop it with conflating a vote for the TPA as having voted for the TPP?

Crud, what is wrong with so many FReepers? Are all of you nuts?


Will you stop implying that voting for something that removes the ability of Congress to act in their Constituitional role and amend trade legislation is ok? Will you stop implying that ivoting for legislation that gives the President authority to advance a secret trade agreement and carries significant implications to immigration policy and sovereignty?

Crud, what is wrong with so many Freepers. Are all of you nuts?


71 posted on 06/14/2015 7:19:54 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: ConservativeMind
Will you stop it with conflating a vote for the TPA as having voted for the TPP?

Think of it like this A vote for TPA = Cloture Vote for ObamaCare. If you don't see that then there is no hope for you to understand exactly how evil TPA is.

96 posted on 06/14/2015 7:34:26 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: ConservativeMind

A vote for TPA is a vote that virtually guarabtees the. passage of TPP due to it’s lowering of the needed votes to pass. Stop pretending otherwise.


101 posted on 06/14/2015 7:35:51 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: ConservativeMind

Any dolt can see that voting for TPA makes the TPP far more likely to pass. So a vote for TPA is in fact a vote for the eventuality of TPP.

That is a fact you don’t want anyone to know. You and Cruz are so much smarter than anyone else.


108 posted on 06/14/2015 7:37:29 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: ConservativeMind
"Will you stop it with conflating a vote for the TPA as having voted for the TPP? Crud, what is wrong with so many FReepers? Are all of you nuts?"

Thank you. I was just getting ready to post the same but decided to read further. Plus since the TAA didn't pass, it makes the TPA moot.

Plus, I'm sick of posters here confusing the secrecy of the multi-nation negotiations for TPP (which is on-going) with the open TPA and TAA bills. What happened to the reading abilities of so many on this forum, not to mention logical analysis?

146 posted on 06/14/2015 7:59:00 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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