[xzins]

I’m not talking about IBM negotiating with Microsoft.

I’m talking about MY government negotiating trade in secret. I see reasons to negotiate defense, weaponry, black operations, etc., in secret.

I see great danger is allowing secrecy beyond that.

[semimojo]

I’m not talking about IBM negotiating with Microsoft.

I’m talking about MY government negotiating trade in secret. I see reasons to negotiate defense, weaponry, black operations, etc., in secret.

I see great danger is allowing secrecy beyond that

Our government negotiates every bill "in secret". You can watch congress "debate" bills on C-Span but none of us are naive enough to think that's where the real negotiations take place.

The real world is all about sausage making, and the most we can realistically hope for is that we get to see the finished sausage and decide whether we want to eat it or not.