[Finny]

Wrong. The state only pretends to own its subjects, and it does it by force -- it MUST do it by force -- precisely because it CANNOT own what only an individual owns, which is how the individual choses to react to whatever happens to that individual. The individual can either choose to give in -- perhaps because he/she doesn't want loved ones killed or material possessions seized -- or the individual can choose to go down fighting. Regardless, the ONLY thing an individual owns is self-will, and the fact that is the ONE thing the government cannot take even by force, proves it.

A state can put a freedom-loving patriot in prison, steal all his possessions, kill his family, and take away his dignity.

But no matter how hard it tries, the state CANNOT turn that person into a willing slave. That fact is the BANE of Communism. It's why Communism cannot tolerate religion, Christianity in particular. Christianity TEACHES the difference between ownership of material goods, and the ownership of self.

Are you a communist?

You run your mouth pretty wreckless for a man that don't go heeled.

[hosepipe]

Wrong. The state only pretends to own its subjects, and it does it by force -- it MUST do it by force -- precisely because it CANNOT own what only an individual owns, which is how the individual choses to react to whatever happens to that individual.

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BUT.... It appears STATES have been very successful at OWNING their subjects(and stuff)... thru history..
Almost 99.999 percent successful... NO!.. more than 99.999% successful

You're opinion is fighting a very successful FACT.... Not opinion.. fact...
I know it sucks being a dog fighting the flock instinct..

WHO OWNS the wool, milk, meat and lambs?...
BUZZZ...... not the Sheep...

YOU know..................... SO FAR!...

[hosepipe]

Are you a communist? -------
You run your mouth pretty wreckless for a man that don't go heeled.
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It's just a question... WHAT are you afraid of?..