Posted on 06/08/2015 1:16:50 PM PDT by Pinkbell
In a minute, I will get to the two gay persons involved in exposing this and the porn history behind the magazine In Touch.
First, I of course want to say that Josh Duggars actions were inexcusable, lest anyone accuse me of supporting what he did. I realize the media would have had no dirt on them had this not happened. That said, I listened to the interview with his parents, and I listened to the interview with the victims. I do believe the parents tried to do the right thing. They ultimately did get him help and contact the authorities. Say what you will about the help that they got Josh, but it seemed to work. There has been no indication from even the media that he has ever done something since he was 15. If he has, then I take that back, but there is no proof that he has.
The thing that I am getting at is that this is bigger in the liberal media than I believe it would have been had this happened to a liberal family. When the news of this molestation scandal came out, the first thing that I thought is, "They finally got them." There are a couple different websites, one in particular, who have disliked the Duggars for years due to their conservative, Christian beliefs. The one thing the Duggars did which essentially "doomed" them was to speak out against the gay agenda. It's not that the Duggars have ever said they hate gay people. Michelle's sister happens to be a lesbian, and they still love her. The Duggars simply believe marriage is between one man and one woman and children need to have a mother and father. Michelle Duggar made a robocall against a transgender bill out of concern that a man could claim to "feel" he is a woman to be able to use the womens' room to prey on a woman or young girls. She never said that ALL or even a majority of transgender people are child molestors like the media is playing it off as.
That brings me to my point, one of the sites is a site where the majority of posters do not like the Duggars or "fundies" or conservatives in general. Anyway, this person was linked as the person who tipped off In Touch or at least helped. She and her partner are lesbians who gave the dirt to In Touch [no idea how she knew], but she has a history of not liking the Duggars. Michelle Duggar making a robocall arguing against transgenders in the bathrooms really set her and her partner off. They organized a gay "kiss in" in front of the Duggars home. She is very proud of herself, and here is a link to her claiming credit for the In Touch story:
http://imgur.com/QjT4Pwy
Second of all, the writer who broke the story for In Touch is a gay man who also broke the story of John Edwards with Rielle Hunter. I mention the latter because it does show he is willing to throw the other side under the bus for a good story, but I think he relished throwing the Duggars under the bus. He did an interview with The Advocate:
19 Questions With the Gay Journalist Who Brought Down the Duggars
Here are a few key questions I excerpted to illustrate my point:
The Advocate: Hi Rick. Congrats on the piece. How did you come to break this story?
Rick Egusquiza: Thank you. The rumors of Joshua Duggar being sexually inappropriate as a teenager were circulating for years, but no one could prove it until In Touch Weekly really started digging into it. My bosses received a tip and then sent me and a team to Springdale, Ark., to start digging around. One tipster led me to another, and then another. I have to say it was good old-fashioned reporting on the ground and a lot of door-knocking. Also a lot of leg work from our team of excellent reporters and editors. I'd love to take full credit, but it wasn't a one-man job.
Were you aware the family had a history of homophobia and transphobia?
I assumed they weren't fans of our community because they were such Bible-thumping conservative Christians, and I knew Josh Duggar worked for the Family Research Council. I learned a lot more about them when I was doing research for this story. I was disgusted by Michelle's robocall to the citizens of Fayetteville, Ark., regrading trans women and restrooms and comparing them to child molesters when she knew about her sons actions.
Why do you think the Duggars are so popular?
Unfortunately, a lot of people in this country still have the same beliefs [as the Duggars] so they put the Duggars on a pedestal. On the other hand, I think a lot of the country and the world are very happy that their hypocrisy has been uncovered. Now, theyre more popular than ever though.
What's been your favorite response to the story?
When people thank me for doing God's work. Of course, now that the story is out, everyone I meet tells me the same thing, which is, "I knew it! I just knew something weird was going on in that family." Of course, "weird" is a major understatement; it was a crime.
Can't you dig up something good on that racist, antigay Duck Dynasty clan?
Ill get on that, but I dont think were done with the Duggars yet.
http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/television/2015/06/04/19-questions-gay-journalist-who-brought-down-duggars
Here is some info regarding In Touch and its connection to porn as well:
The Wrap reported in 2013:
But an investigation by TheWrap has found that there is a darker side to the privately held company, including publication of at least one magazine appealing to neo-Nazis, as well as significant involvement in the distribution of pornography including Nazi-themed porn movies.
These lend perspective to Bauers legal woes in the United States, including a $50 million defamation lawsuit by Tom Cruise, filed last October after two U.S.-based publications alleged hed abandoned his daughter Suri. In fact, Bauer generates dozens of legal complaints worldwide each year about invasion of privacy or libel, according to a lawyer who has frequently opposed them.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/06/06/meet-the-terrible-porn-publisher-behind-the-outing-of-the-duggar-abuse-story/
The two sites mentioned have a lot of posters who have wanted the Duggars off the air for a long time, and the bottom line is because they are fundies or very conservative Christians. They were looking for something, anything to get them, and they got it. I saw one post from a poster who said they were disappointed this had to be this type of scandal because it involved molestation, but they wanted something, and others agreed. Another poster on the second forum who was a liberal was actually disgusted that some liberal friends on Facebook were rejoicing over this because they hate the Duggars.
These people say they just care about the girls...all while bashing their family by calling them a cult, creepy, weird, etc. and then proudly calling for the show to be cancelled...what they've wanted for years but didn't have a valid reason to do so. This isn't primarily about the girls to them, and Jessa said so last night on Megyn Kelly. This is about taking this family down all the while trying to be sympathetic. Does this journalist care what he put those girls through? They say they feel worse now than when it happened? No. He's proud of himself, and he is still digging.
My final point is that people say the Duggars are getting more heat because they held themselves up as moral arbitrators, and therefore, they are hypocrites. Isnt this always the spiel with the liberals regarding conservatives? If a conservative has sinned or has a bad past, does that mean that he/she cant speak out for conservative, Christian issues today? Josh, by all accounts so far, has turned his life around, so its not as if he is saying one thing and doing another. If he was still doing it or it was done as an adult and covered up, I would agree with them. Do they ever so severely call out their own who act as moral arbitrators for the modern, secular humanist agenda that rules todays society?
Exactly.
There sure is a lot of judging those aren’t convinced the duggars did the right thing, huh.
“First they came for the Christians, but I did nothing because I HATE THESE Christians”..........do this at your own peril, haters and UN-FORGIVERS.
Not for salvation, but in regards to others knowing if you repented or not. There is no other requirement.
“So he shouldnt be forgiven?”
We don’t live under a Christian version of sharia.
I hope when they come for you that you are as white as the driven snow.
I’m saying that he didn’t stop being a pervert. There is more to come and the Duggar defenders will be eating a bit of crow when the nice little story you think you know falls apart. That family is a cult and the perversion that runs through it will be exposed. Do your research on what they believe. It isn’t biblical either.
STOP IT....NO ONE IS EXCUSING WHAT HE DID!!!!! IT”:S WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE!!! geesh....
That sure does make it easy, doesn’t it? Still waiting on the verse for that, BTW.
BINGO!!! The GAY COMMUNITY HATES Josh Duggar because he’s not GAY!!! ANd didn’;t MOLEST BOYS like MOST GAYS DO!!!
No kdding...there are more PRO-GAYS here on FR than I’ve ever seen....it’s DISGUSTING!
Shhhh. This is all gays and liberals fault. Please don’t inject this topic with common sense.
I am a Catholic, and the Duggars do not like Catholics, I;m sure, but that does not stop me from defending the family from the HATRED OF THE GAYS and ANTI-CHRISTIANS!!! It's sickening.
You really need Salvation.
And once caught, the purists here gang piled on them...........go figure how the behavior of a 14 year old kid which was dealt with appropriately by his parents could cause so much controversy......
I guess the lesson to be learned is if you're a Christian, keep your life to yourself..............
And if you're a so-called Christian bashing the Duggars, make sure you're immune to stones...............
Ann, With all due respect. The Duggars are not Christian and the defense that it was the gays and porn people that caused all of this is ridiculous. I am not saying they didn’t play a part, but the Duggars politicized themselves and took on the gay lobby directly. This was a political hit job, not an attack on Christians per se.
I am not defending gays or pornographers, but if you choose to take them on they can and will fight back. That there was something there for them to use is unfortunate, but there was something there. Which makes the decision to go after gays as perverts a little misguided on their part.
Jim Bob and Michelle should never had put Josh in the FRC and Michelle’s attack on trannies as child molestors also contributed.
In summary, this was never a religious thing. Trying to make into one after the fact and saying anyone who thinks they are a bunch of frauds is anti-christian is dubious at best.
I doubt the Duggars dislike Catholics.
I'm not Catholic and I don't dislike Catholics...
OKAY some...maybe :)
But Catholics as a whole, no.
Like the Duggars, I will disagree with Catholics on certain issues. Disagreement is not dislike, as your living proof.
I'm fairly certain, that if the roles were reversed, they'd defend you to.
I appreciate your concern, but some saved ones around here are convincing me otherwise.
I have NO doubt they would defend me!!! I LOVE the family....God has Blessed them with 19 children.....NO ABORTIONS!!!!
TRANNIES and GY+AYS ARE CHILD MOLESTERS since they TARGET SAME SEX!!!!! You are DELUSIONAL if you don’t think the DEVIL LIBERAL GAY community isn’t behind this.
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