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800 Years of Limited Government
Townhall.com ^ | June 8 | George Mano

Posted on 06/08/2015 10:25:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/08/2015 10:25:07 AM PDT by Kaslin
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All to lead to the modern day.

Disarmed citizens about to be ruled by sharia law...


2 posted on 06/08/2015 10:33:11 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Nice background. I was familiar with most of it, but not all.

It took another three centuries and two bloody civil wars before England got a king and queen equal to John in tyranny and a bit more than a century after that before they had to do the ultimate check and balance on another despotic king by beheading him.

3 posted on 06/08/2015 10:33:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

They were showing documtnary on my local PBS station by Dan Jones he is good author he was talking about Magna Carta


4 posted on 06/08/2015 10:34:58 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Kaslin

This document was a fraud. It did nothing to advance transgender rights or prevent global warming.


5 posted on 06/08/2015 10:35:27 AM PDT by samtheman
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Magna Carta is the basus of our own documents, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, as the founding documents of the Republic.


6 posted on 06/08/2015 10:38:15 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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...to be followed by 800 years of unlimited government


7 posted on 06/08/2015 10:40:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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What is perhaps most significant about Magna Carta in the American context is that it is a very clear example of what Jefferson postulated in the preamble to the Declaration Of Independence--i.e., that Government is a compact, to secure the Natural Rights of those under that Government.

It is an historic answer to those contemporary Academics, who have sought to dismiss Jefferson's postulates as purely theoretical; whereas, it is the claims of the Left to Utilitarian power, to force their fantasy, egalitarian wish lists, on the rest of us, that are purely theoretical. Jefferson was arguing from experience.

William Flax

8 posted on 06/08/2015 10:43:36 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Whatever happened to June 15, 1215?


9 posted on 06/08/2015 10:44:34 AM PDT by odawg
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In this post-Constitutional age we live in today, ...

Is the author stating that the Constitution, as we know it, is dead?...................

10 posted on 06/08/2015 10:44:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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Very nice. Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 06/08/2015 10:45:14 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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I went to England last year and got to see an original copy on display at the British Library in London. One fascinating story about how they were able to acquire one of their copies took place back some two or three hundred years ago. Somebody cleaning out an old house at the time went into some nook or cranny and out popped this copy that they were able to figure that it dated back to 1215 and that apparently copies of the Magna Carta were sent to locations across England at the time of its signing.


12 posted on 06/08/2015 10:51:38 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

800 years of limited government. Well it was nice while it lasted.


13 posted on 06/08/2015 10:52:16 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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In a way we should thank God for John and his treacherous ways as it brought us the document. His saga repeated again under King Charles, who did all he could to undermine the parliament; and indeed royalists have somehow even to this day, rewrote to history to make villains of Republicans like Cromwell and victims of treacherous Kings.

Sadly in Canada, under Bill C-51, and the US Patriot Act, principles of the Magna Carta continue to be under attack.

14 posted on 06/08/2015 10:53:05 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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"This document was a fraud. It did nothing to advance transgender rights or prevent global warming."

It didn't do much for the 'ordinary citizen' despite what the author of this article says. The best put down of this document is to be found in "1066 and All That" by Sellar and Yeatman. Several articles of the MC are followed by the statement "except the Common People." In reality, it was a charter for the Ruling Class against the king, nothing more.

1066 and All That: A Memorable History of England, comprising all the parts you can remember, including 103 Good Things, 5 Bad Kings and 2 Genuine Dates. Extremely funny, but you have to know the real history to realize how cleverly screwed up the history is in this book.

15 posted on 06/08/2015 10:55:15 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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Yup. Something somewhere went wrong. King George the III was the last British King to try to usurp power from the people (Parliament). Since then it is the Parliament itself, including the political system in the US, that has been corrupted. Perhaps the anti-Federalists were right.


16 posted on 06/08/2015 10:55:40 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Kaslin

Good post. Thanks


17 posted on 06/08/2015 10:57:37 AM PDT by onedoug
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An unsuccessful war against the French King Philip II in the years 1202-4, caused the loss of the continental provinces of Normandy, Aquitaine, and Anjou.

The loss of Aquitaine cost the English crown half its annual tax revenue.

18 posted on 06/08/2015 11:00:36 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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In reality, it was a charter for the Ruling Class against the king, nothing more.

That's true, but it was part of a process that eventually lead to the Declaration of Independence.

19 posted on 06/08/2015 11:01:22 AM PDT by samtheman
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King John had about the same respect for Magna Carta (Great Charter) as Obama has for our Constitution. Hopefully the many parallels between the two men’s misrule and many failures will continue and history will treat his eight years with the same regard as John’s seventeen.


20 posted on 06/08/2015 11:04:31 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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