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To: Crystal Palace East
The problem for the gang members is that if the DA can substantiate that gang members came with intent to “rumble,” all who went to Waco with that intent and were there when the shooting took place can be convicted of murder.

Would that require one of the participants to testify to that effect? iow, must the prosecution have a Rat to substantiate intent?

And would you care to share thoughts on RICO statutes as related to pre-empting crime as opposed to prosecuting actual crimes? And generally the possibility of it being used to harass unpopular groups of citizens.

I saw federal RICO prosecutions against pro-life rescuers in the early 90's. I thought that was a pretty heavy hammer they had to work with and now the states have it as well.

125 posted on 06/08/2015 2:45:01 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

i would guess a girlfriend alerted the cops, possibly a wife


128 posted on 06/08/2015 2:47:21 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: don-o

Rat? Don’t you mean a person who saw some idiot with a gun escalate to murder and wants0 no part of it.

This is not a federal RICO action. This us a State of Texas Murder and conspiracy case. No application of RICO here.


130 posted on 06/08/2015 3:39:35 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: don-o
And would you care to share thoughts on RICO statutes as related to pre-empting crime as opposed to prosecuting actual crimes? And generally the possibility of it being used to harass unpopular groups of citizens.

I am also curious ... bad-ass biker gangs "intent to rumble" at that location, as opposed to a place and TIME where they would be least likely to be filmed, seen, caught, snitched-on? But instead in one of the regularly scheduled meetings that a very broad coalition of clubs have been having for years? And on top of that, with law enforcement present and visible, or at the very least law enforcement present that could preemptively revealed its presence and thereby minimized the bikers' likelihood of starting so-called "rumble"?

Really???

There's people who'll buy anything, I guess, and lawyers too smart by half to get caught up in the game. But if these charges hold up, it sure is going to make it a lot easier for law enforcement to harass and arrest citizens simply for assembling together in one place, even the most unlikely place EVER for a "rumble."

131 posted on 06/08/2015 3:40:23 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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