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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The empirical evidence for global warming, they add, isn’t reflected in temperature data”

Think about that one for a couple of minutes.


2 posted on 06/04/2015 3:42:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (ISIS: Islam's Reformation)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Immaculate warming...


7 posted on 06/04/2015 3:45:11 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Uncle Miltie

so now we’re to believe that the faulty analysis.some would say down right lying...done previously was actually correct but the analysis done to debunk those previous lies are now debunked?.


8 posted on 06/04/2015 3:45:49 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Uncle Miltie
Think about that one for a couple of minutes

Does...not...compute!

9 posted on 06/04/2015 3:45:56 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Think about that one for a couple of minutes.

No. A couple of milliseconds is all it takes.

Although, over on DU, you might get more than a few morons who would take all night and reach no conclusion whatsoever.

26 posted on 06/04/2015 4:02:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It is never untimely to yank the rope of freedom's bell." - - Frank Capra)
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To: Uncle Miltie

When your lies don’t work... LIE HARDER!


47 posted on 06/04/2015 6:00:56 PM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: Uncle Miltie

I thought it was all about the hockey stick? Now its nothing to do with the hockey stick. Don’t even look at the sticks. :-) I wouldn’t care if it were clearly warming. Its good for the planet. We’d have more free water, warmer climates from poll to poll and more bioversity worldwide. These guys behave as if the world has never experienced radical climate shifts and that we should expect static steady climate. Taking 10 minutes looking at prehistoric climate tells you quickly that the climate we have today is NOT the norm but more of an exception however of course if they can get us rubes on board that can spend trillions of dollars and regulate everything even more from how many kids we can have to have much energy we can use to what size cars we can drive. This climate farce is like a socialist grab bag of opportunities to justify the most radical tyrannies in the name of the public good but then again the greatest horrors have been done in the name of the public good by marxists and their ilk. They’ve killed over 100 million innocents worldwide in their “peoples” movements and that isn’t even counting the babies.


53 posted on 06/04/2015 10:54:33 PM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Oh I heard about this on NPR! Its one of the funniest most far-fetched stories I've ever heard. Apparently the data that used to support a "warming hiatus" has decided to support the notion no longer. You see the global mean surface temperure is hard to take and appeared to increasing a lot less these last 20 years causing "skeptics" to use the data as a "ploy". Buoys have been doing it all wrong and need to be adjusted to tell the truth.

Scientists Cast Doubt On An Apparent 'Hiatus' In Global Warming JUNE 04, 2015 6:38 PM ET GEOFF BRUMFIEL A fully loaded container ship sails along the coast. Historically, ships have taken most of the sea measurements that go into the estimate of Earth's average surface temperature. A team of government scientists has revised its estimate for how much the planet has been warming. The new results, published in the journal Science, may dispel the idea that Earth has been in the midst of a "global warming hiatus" — a period over the past 20 years where the planet's temperature appears to have risen very little. "We think the data no longer supports the notion of having a hiatus," says Tom Karl, a scientist with the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration and co-author of the new study. SCIENCE Arctic Is Warming Twice As Fast As World Average If the entire problem of global warming could be summed up in a single number, that number would be the average temperature of the entire surface of the earth, land and sea, at a moment in time. It's also called the global mean surface temperature. During the 20th century, that number shot up. But then something happened. "Since about 1998, through to about 2013, the rate of increase was a lot less," says Kevin Trenberth, a scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado. The slowdown was so dramatic that it appeared that global warming might have stopped altogether. Scientists called it the global warming hiatus. Skeptics of climate change have seized on the idea of the hiatus. "They're using this as a ploy to say, 'Oh, there is no global warming; we don't have to worry about climate change,'" Trenberth says. But few scientists have believed a hiatus meant climate change had stopped. Trenberth says the slower warming is, in part, caused by unusual currents in the Pacific Ocean. Others have cited volcanic activity. Now Karl's team, which is directly responsible for taking the Earth's temperature, says a technological shift in the way the measurements are taken has also obscured the temperature's climb. Here's why: The single number — average global temperature — comes from tens of thousands of independent temperature readings. And, in recent decades, the technology for getting those readings has gradually shifted. On land those measurements are made by weather stations; on the sea, the job has generally been done by commercial and military ships for decades. But starting in the 1980s, governments also began dropping buoys into the ocean to do independent measurements. Karl and his colleagues decided to look at stretches of water where ships pass very near buoys, in order to compare the two temperatures. And they made a surprising discovery. "The buoys actually read colder than the ships," Karl says. A buoy equipped to measure the sea's temperature drifts in the Pacific's California Current. NOAA Even though the two thermometers were in the same place, they gave different readings. And it was happening all over the world. As more buoys were dropped into the sea — all delivering measurements that were consistently cooler than a ship would show in that same spot — the warming trend in the average global temperature seemed to slow dramatically. But Karl and his colleagues believe what looked like a flattening of the warming trend actually just reflected a change in the way the temperature was taken. When the team factored in a correction to the historical data that reconciled the buoys with the ships, they found that what had seemed to be a hiatus in warming disappeared. THE TWO-WAYIt's Official: 2014 Was The Hottest Year On Record, NOAA Says Earth's average temperature has, indeed, maintained a steady climb through the last decades. Kevin Trenberth, who wasn't involved in this analysis, says critics may be skeptical of these revisions, but they shouldn't be. "You see this kind of thing also with the stock market and various other economic indicators: 'Oh they've revised the estimates of what the unemployment rate was in the last quarter,' or something like that, and that's exactly what's going on here," Trenberth says. And the warming trend may be accelerating even more. The calendar year 2014 was the warmest on record, and Trenberth says the past 12 months – mid-year to mid-year — have been even warmer.

54 posted on 06/05/2015 2:29:40 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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