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To: DrewsMum
"No one labeled anyone who isn’t a Duggar fan as unchristian."

From your post #132: "But these can’t be Christians commenting with all this hatred on the Duggar threads. So that makes it a little easier to stomach their vile they are spewing."

Let's keep things truthful here.

"I labeled those who acting unchristian as unchristian."

Don't play word games. You said it---be woman enough to own it.

"Unforgiveness, judgemental comments, lying about others"

I don't need to forgive Josh Duggar; I'm not one of the minors he molested.

What do you have against judging? The Bible tells us to judge, as long as we aren't engaged in that same behavior, and I'm not a child molester. As a Christian, you should have no problem differentiating between right and wrong.

Besides, I've seen you talk about religious idiocy and kooks, so don't try to wrap yourself up in sanctimony about getting "judgmental."

"You have lied repeatedly about the Duggars. You have tried to disparage a whole group of people just because you don’t believe the same as they do."

Show me exactly where I lied about the Duggars. I'll wait for you to type it all out...take your time.

"I would love to know how they are destroying themselves.... Nevermind. You can’t see the situation as anything but the caricature you built of a group of people way before this all came out. You already had your opinions....that makes it difficult to be objective. But it makes it easier to mock and name call doesn’t it?"

What, like calling people liars, not Christian? The kind of thing you're doing?

I truly find it interesting that you seem to think one has to fawn all over that strange, creepy family, or else one must be unChristian. Why is that? When did they become sacred?

"You even attacked me on here for stating the truth and then you lied on me by saying that I said something that I didn’t. THAT is called bearing false witness."

So you truthfully said some on this thread aren't Christians, but when I called your attention to it, I was lying. That's a good trick...how's it work?

"I sure hope your kids are grown and that your family never sins or makes any mistakes."

My family isn't concealing any baby-gropers.

Repeatedly sneaking into your sisters' rooms at night to forcibly fondle their privates, and groping the crotch of a five year-old on your lap, are not mistakes.

"Who defended sexual perversion?"

You. Again...by calling it a "mistake."

"Please try to refrain from lying when answering."

Again, show me my lies, and be specific.

260 posted on 06/05/2015 7:43:46 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon
The Bible tells us to judge, as long as we aren't engaged in that same behavior, and I'm not a child molester. As a Christian, you should have no problem differentiating between right and wrong.

No, the Bible says to "judge rightly". Attacking someone that has already repented and making assumptions about people you don't know is not judging rightly.

Jesus judged people like you in his time when he lambasted the pharisees for being of their father, the devil.

274 posted on 06/05/2015 1:51:55 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: CatherineofAragon

You can not be a Duggar fan and still not be hateful in your comments.

Hateful comments are unchristian. Your comments on them encompass everything from sowing discord to bearing false witness to showing NO MERCY WHATSOEVER.

I own what I said. Not what you said. You took what I said and twisted it. Just like liberals do when debating them.

No, you don’t need to forgive Josh Duggar, but you act like you do and even stated that you have every right to judge him. Speaking of judging, the problem is that when we judge others for sins they have repented of and to the best of anyone’s knowledge have never committed the act again. Even if he did repeatedly to begin with, there is a point where many of us Christians have gotten caught up in a sin and it took time for us to completely stop the behavior. But, we grow, mature, seek the face of God and when we look back, we are so ashamed of our behavior that we can’t fathom what made us act that way in the first place. As a flawed human, and forgiven Christian, I can totally relate to that. Can you? Or is it that since you think his sin was worse than yours, that he deserves a less amount of grace and forgiveness??

I don’t have a problem differentiating between right and wrong. Which I why I called you out on your hateful attitude and lying on this thread. I aslo don’t have a problem differentiating between the SIN and the SINNER.

And you’ve seen me talk about religious idiocy and kooks?? Look, I rarely have time to comment on FR lately, so I have no clue what you’re talking about....I’m not saying I never commented about it, but why not post an example of something I said instead of just flinging allegations??

And where did you lie about the Duggars? Well, here’s one example....you said they forbid the kids from holding hands....that’s not true. But you just make stuff up.

Also, it’s no just the straight up lies, but it’s the innuendos, the, to use your phrase, it’s the word games you play. Using “molester” every time you mention the name Josh Duggar. You phrase your comments with hate and vile.

How about peppering comments about a fallen Christian with grace and mercy. Especially if they have tried to lay it at the cross and move on with their life??? It’s under the blood. What makes you better than Jesus Christ to think you can continually kick around a brethren when they are down.???

And your family isn’t concealing any baby gropers? So you have them, but y’all aren’t concealing them?? Or you don’t have them?? How do you know??

Another question. If your child ever came to you and confessed a sin and you took all the action that you thought necessary, including contacting authorities, etc and you felt that your child had finally came back on a good path, would you find it necessary to remind people, MILLIONS of people, what a horrible sinner they were when they were an underage kid?

And I’m sorry that you have trouble reading and missed where I said several times that what he did was SIN. And a lot of Christians refer to their shady past as “mistakes”...that’s not downplaying it or saying you didn’t MEAN to do it....it’s saying that you making that choice was a mistake. Reading comprehension a bit much for you??

And I said that there’s no way some on this thread could be Christians... the Bible says “you’ll know them by their fruits”...hatefulness is not a fruit of christianity by the way.

Yes, I called you a liar because that’s what you call someone who lies. You don’t really know squat about this family,,,,,all you know is what you have heard from liberal media and what you read about the religion that they associate themselves with.


275 posted on 06/05/2015 3:51:09 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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