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Attorneys: Waco shooting detainees could be legal liability
Killeen Daily Herald ^ | June 2, 2015 | Clay Thorp

Posted on 06/02/2015 6:26:00 AM PDT by don-o

Defense attorneys representing many of those jailed for the Twin Peaks shooting in Waco said law enforcement officials in McLennan County are overseeing an unprecedented and unlawful mass arrest of innocent bikers as more were released Monday at the behest of their attorneys.

Killeen residents Justin Nash Waddington, Ester Sandy Weaver, Walter Thomas Weaver and Zebulon Harris; Colter Bajovich and Ronald Atterbury, both of Gatesville; Daryle Walker of Harker Heights and Glenn Walker of Copperas Cove are among those in the McLennan County Jail on charges of engaging in organized crime. Each is being held on a $1 million bond.

“That was an immediate red flag,” said Josh Tetens, a defense attorney in Waco representing Roy Covey, speaking of the initial arrest of almost 200 bikers. “I think Judge Peterson said it well when he said that his sole reason for setting million-dollar bonds against so many people under the exact same charge was to ‘send a message,’ which I believe in and of itself is completely unconstitutional.”

Defense attorneys said the mass jailing of defendants has exposed McLennan County to expensive lawsuits.

(Excerpt) Read more at kdhnews.com ...


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To: Travis McGee

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3295962/posts

Nothing to see here, honest..
/ end obvious sarc.. and possibly related link.


21 posted on 06/02/2015 7:26:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: BerryDingle

McLennan Co doesn’t have room for them all so they’re spread around the state which is costing the taxpayers of McLennan Co even more $$$$$. Those other institutions don’t give out cells for free. The tax payers need to clean house starting with Sgt. Swanton, his supervisors, the DA and Judge Peterson.


22 posted on 06/02/2015 7:27:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: TexasGator

What, is your ox getting gored?


23 posted on 06/02/2015 7:42:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: don-o
So the "authorities" will mass arrest US citizens for being at the scene of a crime, but will NOT arrest muslime conspirators of mosques that provide aid and cover for MURDERERS!

Why weren't the mosque members arrested en mass for NOT preventing the attempted MURDER recently in Dallas? They have 1400 years of being COMMANDED to MURDER, and to PROVIDE and SUPPORT MURDER!

They are truly GUILTY. I suppose it's justice for just us.

24 posted on 06/02/2015 7:56:30 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Brittany Lannen who seems to be a key player in this mess has an interesting background
25 posted on 06/02/2015 8:06:12 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Guilt by association! Some bikers are hard core bad guys. But most are not.

These cops were brainwashed, probably by the Feds, that all Bikers are drug dealers or terrorists. Many are vets and many are constitutionalists (terrorists according to the DOD and Homeland inSecurity). A few are drug dealers. None are Muslim terrorists that I have ever heard of.


26 posted on 06/02/2015 8:08:00 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee

After taking some time to review some things in the middle of this mess I have discovered several things.  One is that while those who call for “cooler heads” may be reasonable we “little people” don’t always have the luxury of time.  Europes Jews in the 40s and folks like Solshenitzen found themselves caught up in a tide they might have avoided had they been attentive.

Two events bear examination to help us understand these things.  The Ludlow Massacre and the Kent State shooting.  Both of these events took decades for the truth to really come out.  Folks in authority who had behaved in ways that were criminal were not held to account to any reasonable degree.  Read for yourself and discover the Colo. NG Lt. who had Tikas in his custody when he was last seen alive was acquitted.  The ONG Sgt. That fired his 1911 handgun that precipitated the ensuing volley was acquitted.  If history has anything to teach, “the truth” about Twin Peaks will be suppressed for quite some time.  Once it is known there will not be any meaningful accounting.

We don’t have decades to be attentive to our surroundings in order to protect our families and communities.  Hat tip to the FReeper who pointed out that if there was official misconduct the truth would be aggressively distorted and suppressed and there would never be anyone significantly held responsible.  No comfort for the families of those affected but that is the way it is.  Ludlow and Kent State both support this conclusion.  

The events leading up to both of these atrocities have lessons to teach as well. The anti war protestors were fighting conscription that was requiring them to go halfway round the world and kill and be killed by yellow people for reasons that were not clear at the time.  The Italian immigrant coal miners were fighting an intolerable situation.  Stranded in what was nearly wilderness conditions they were required to daily subject themselves to dangers that were approaching actual combat levels of danger just to daily lose ground in supporting their families.  To further enrich one of the wealthiest men in human history.  Both groups had serious, legitimate grievances.  Both groups were organized and led by Communist Instigators.

How could these events have been avoided?  Years of work answering this question have been done.  It seems to me the important thing was that “the little people” were horrified by the undeniable facts that were immediately known and in spite of “the truth” being suppressed both these events precipitated reforms that addressed the grievances.  So Twin Peaks will remain obscured for a long time to come, those responsible will never be held significantly to account.  However, the “little people” are paying attention, will come to their own conclusions and reforms will come.  


27 posted on 06/02/2015 8:13:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: don-o
Heh ... the DA, judges and public defenders are a small community, sort of like family, with feuds, friendships, and favors all around.

The only one who is fairly well insulated from legal action is the "set unreasonable bail to send 'em a message" judge.

28 posted on 06/02/2015 8:26:24 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: don-o

““They’re just crushed,” Looney said. “These people have lived exemplary lives and now their whole community thinks they’re thugs and murderers.”

A Texas biker can wear the bottom “Texas” rocker only if sanctioned by the Bandidos motorcycle gang:

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/06/10-most-dangerous-motorcycle-gangs-in-america/bandidos-motorcycle-club

“Territory: The South, concentrated in Texas
Approximate membership: 2,500

At more than 2,000 members, the Bandidos are one of the largest gangs in America. Though the gang was only just founded in 1996, the gang has a presence in 16 states and 14 countries. The influence of the gang has led the federal government to name them among the Big Four MCs (Pagans, Hells Angels, Outlaws, and Bandidos). The Bandidos’ home base is in Texas, where they specialize in smuggling drugs across the U.S.-Mexican border. Their aggressive, effective expansion has been evidenced in their involvement in crimes as far afield as Norway and Australia.”

So my question is, “How many of the arrested choirboys were wearing the bottom Texas rocker”?


29 posted on 06/02/2015 8:47:05 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: bgill

No, they’re baaaaack.
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The boots must have been all licked and they’ve received their first of the month government EBT payment, so they’re back...ready and and rarin’ to go.


30 posted on 06/02/2015 10:58:38 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: TexasGator

I think by now people just scroll past them.


31 posted on 06/02/2015 1:18:15 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: TexasGator

“It has been determined the district attorney’s office was not involved in yesterday’s attempt to get defendants to waive their rights of litigation in exchange for bonds,” Looney said.”

This is a retraction of his previous press release, in which he also accused the county public defender’s office of being involved, despite the fact that the county does not have such an office. His Waco clients should get better representation, Looney may not be able to find the Court House.

Local news seems to have a perspective which is different than some of these threads. We need more of that, thanks for the links.

Servus


32 posted on 06/02/2015 1:41:31 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: catnipman

“How many of the arrested choirboys were wearing the bottom Texas rocker”?

And how many failed to notice the Texas rocker on the 60-70 Cossacks who showed up at Twin Peaks, in open defiance of Bandido hegemony?

Maybe the recreational bikers have indeed lived “exemplary lives” (despite associating with criminal gangs). But one wonders about their common sense and survival instinct hanging around TP that day. This was obviously not going to be an ordinary meeting to discuss legislative issues.


33 posted on 06/02/2015 2:06:52 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: griswold3; Travis McGee
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230191

I like this.

So do I.

The indiscriminate mass arrests prove the police are in the wrong, even before studying Travis's photos. Of course, if Travis's theory is correct, they are more than in the wrong. They are a bunch of capital murderers!

34 posted on 06/02/2015 2:46:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TexasGator

Well, that post is an outright lie, so it isn’t like you either have or can regain any credibility.


35 posted on 06/02/2015 2:50:20 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

You are still sticking up for Lt. Calley’s story about hist soldiers breaking up a firefight between Vietnamese clans at My Lai.

It’s just pathetic at this point. Unless you are being paid, then I understand, it’s just about the coin, it’s just a “cyber warrior” job.


36 posted on 06/02/2015 3:35:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I did exactly the opposite. Reread my post please. Calley was legitimately subject to courts martial. Ethical soldiers such as Sgt. Larry made that clear to us, despite the “conservative press” who wanted to turn Calley into a victim of the anti-war activists.


37 posted on 06/02/2015 3:57:49 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH
Yep. And sooner or later, we'll find out about the "LT. Calley" of the ATF of Waco PD/SWAT in charge of setting sniper positions at the Twin Peaks.

I'm just sick of people who automatically begin goose-stepping and throwing out the Hitler Salute when anybody in uniform marches past. Way sick.

38 posted on 06/02/2015 3:59:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Typo:
ATF or the Waco PD/SWAT


39 posted on 06/02/2015 4:00:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I am however tired of people throwing up the Hitler Salute to prior posts, instead of thoughtfully reading other people’s posts.


40 posted on 06/02/2015 4:03:42 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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