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Video at link -- news conference and partial dash cam footage.

Perhaps those that cast judgment will see this. The gathering of facts is still ongoing. This is being released less than 72 hours from the shooting. Those that were front running should examine prior to forming a judgment. It is still under investigation.

1 posted on 06/01/2015 3:11:31 PM PDT by gwjack
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Get out of the floodwaters —> BAM

Sounds like a rerun of Katrina, New Orleans.


2 posted on 06/01/2015 3:15:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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Much discussion here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3295475/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

Still not much information???


3 posted on 06/01/2015 3:23:58 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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Most of the officer involved shootings start with nanny state petty offenses. Perhaps backing off of nanny statism would help.

If the boys want to play in the flood, let them win a Darwin award.

4 posted on 06/01/2015 3:25:20 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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Keep your hands off an officer of the law.


8 posted on 06/01/2015 3:43:19 PM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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I could care less if the trooper was shoved, smacked in the face or anything else that did not threaten his life. Since the moron trooper did not understand he was dealing with non-criminal members of the public who were under great stress, he should be fired.

People were losing their property they worked hard to get. People who do not have guaranteed government job like the trooper and me for that matter were struggling to salvage their lives. They are worried about their property. They are worried about where their next pay check might come from. They are worried about other family members.

If the trooper was assaulted, he had arrest powers. The guy was in what apparently the trooper thought were dangerous flood waters. Maybe he slipped on an underwater object. Maybe exhaustion caused him to fall into the trooper. You can not tell from the video.


10 posted on 06/01/2015 3:44:09 PM PDT by JLS
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Perhaps the officer was assaulted, perhaps he wasn't.

If he was, he had a right to defend himself.

If he was not assaulted, there is now sufficient public scrutiny to investigate the matter and make him pay the price.

Many people assume that a police officer can never be held liable for not aiding a member of the public. This is not strictly true.

If someone is worried more about his truck than his life, then he should probably have car insurance. And his misplaced priorities do not absolve third parties from the moral obligation of helping someone who is in danger.

There is much talk of what an exemplary Christian the dead man was. He may have been.

But there is also the notion of not treasuring material goods above more substantial ones, of turning the other cheek, of submitting to lawful authority in all things but sin, etc.

20 posted on 06/01/2015 4:12:09 PM PDT by wideawake
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Perhaps those that cast judgment will see this.

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This won’t change their minds one bit.


26 posted on 06/01/2015 4:30:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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In Oklahoma, the primary purpose of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol is (surprise) patrolling roads and highways. Barricading flooded roads is one thing they do. Also, probably, these people's offence, Oklahoma Statute 47:11§11-103:
No person shall willfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order or direction of any police officer invested by law with authority to direct, control or regulate traffic.

The cited code links to case law, if interested.

32 posted on 06/01/2015 4:42:59 PM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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Pima County officials claim that the settlement does not imply wrongdoing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Guerena_shooting

A video of the raid shows roughly 38 seconds expired from the time the police briefly sounded a siren upon pulling into Guerena’s driveway until they shot him.[8] At this point the five person team fired at least 71 rounds at Guerena in less than seven seconds, who died after being hit 22 times.[9][10]
Guerena’s wife called 911 to request medical assistance for her husband shortly after the shooting. Paramedics, however, were instructed to hold back. Guerena was denied attention, for about one hour, until the team declared the “area secured”. Ambulance crews were then notified they were no longer needed, one hour and fourteen minutes after Guerena’s wife’s call to 911.[9][11]

The lawyer for the officers, however, said[citation needed] that the lawsuit is only to cause more “hysteria” and the amount is excessive since the officers had already been cleared of wrongdoing


53 posted on 06/01/2015 5:27:49 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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Shove a police officer? That’s a killing.


70 posted on 06/01/2015 6:35:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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Uh, maybe they didn’t want to get out of the water?

One has to die for defying the nanny state?

Always avoid the cops. Anyway you can.


85 posted on 06/01/2015 7:21:08 PM PDT by x1stcav (Why does Eleanor Clift always look like her private parts are causing her acute pain?)
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Off-Topic. While I was looking up info about this shooting, I listened to one of Fischer’s sermons—Reaping What We Sow—posted at his church’s site. He seemed like a nice man.


94 posted on 06/01/2015 8:31:00 PM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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