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There is something in the Citizens United decision that is kryptonite to the Left. It's elimination is just about all they ever want to talk about.
1 posted on 05/31/2015 11:59:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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And yet who did Chávez hypocritically cry out to when he was ravaged with cancer? Oh yes. Meanwhile, his party has no problem blaspheming a little over a year after cancer finally claimed him.
2 posted on 06/01/2015 12:05:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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The American public has voted in a Marxist radical for president twice in the past two presidentials. Somehow I don’t think the nefarious capitalists are controlling all the strings in our political discourse democracy. Quite the opposite in fact.


3 posted on 06/01/2015 12:07:57 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Wow, this guy really tells it like it ain’t!

It’s been a long time since my American History classes, but this guy is hellbent on twisting things to suit his views.

What a dork.


4 posted on 06/01/2015 12:08:26 AM PDT by DemforBush (Ex-Democrat, and NotforJeb. Just so we're clear.)
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I am saving this excellent, informative column.

Thank you so much for finding and posting.


5 posted on 06/01/2015 12:08:48 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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Pardon my sacrilege, but it’s long past time to stop standing in awe of the framers’ explicitly authoritarian document and to think about designing and creating a new governmental structure appropriate to social and democratic values in the 21st century.

That says it all. What this moron advocates is creating a new Marxist governmental structure - and wants to get ahead of the pack to simply set the meme that he hopes becomes the revolution he and his ilk so desperately want.

There is no coexisting alongside this bunch. Their aims are being made plain each day.

7 posted on 06/01/2015 12:11:36 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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"...the delegates to the U.S. Constitutional Convention shared their compatriot John Jay’s view that “the people who own the country ought to govern it.”

He says that like it's a bad thing.

8 posted on 06/01/2015 12:26:32 AM PDT by shibumi ("Walk Through the Fire, Fly Through the Smoke")
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Democracy is the most easily misled and corrupted form of government known to man. It is a Lynch mob on steroids.


10 posted on 06/01/2015 12:43:36 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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"An increase of population will of necessity increase the proportion of those who will labour under all the hardships of life, and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings. These may in time outnumber those who are placed above the feelings of indigence. According to the equal laws of suffrage, the power will slide into the hands of the former."

Good explanation of how comrade obama has endeavored to usurp the Constitution through unlimited importation of undocumented democrats.
11 posted on 06/01/2015 12:49:59 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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Sanders was right to suggest that the United States’ revered “founding fathers” would be scandalized by the plutocratic madness of the big money and big media elections racket that passes for popular democracy in the ever more openly oligarchic U.S. today

They would be even more scandalized by big government.

12 posted on 06/01/2015 12:53:41 AM PDT by GeronL (free short story: http://flscifi.blogspot.com/2015/05/free-short-story-proper-care-feeding-of.html)
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The leftists I’ve talked too seem ignorant about what happened in CU. So when explaining the govt attempted to censor a movie the leftists try to deny that happened!!

Notice this op-ed does not mention Hillary:the movie


13 posted on 06/01/2015 1:00:16 AM PDT by RginTN
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These idiots worship democracy as if it's some kind of ideal to strive for.

As if Majority Tyranny suddenly is not a huge threat to Liberty.

As for the ownership of property and its protection, again, this concept includes those with a little property, as well as those with a lot.

This guy's tripe is pure, unadulterated Marxism. He uses the flaws and biases of the Founders in an attempt to indict the ideal concept of individual rights and Liberty, subjecting them to the arbitrary whims of the mob.

The Founders, however selfish they may have been, knew very well the dangers of pure democracy. Those dangers have not changed one bit. Indeed, they have manifested themselves in murderous fashion throughout the 20th century, resulting in more widespread slaughter of human beings than at any time in recorded history.

This "flawed" document has produced the highest standard of living in the world, including more ownership of property by individuals, even considering the extra problems which our society has had to endure, such as, for example massive immigration, which puts pressure on labor markets as well as producing massive cultural friction.

What a crock of shit this guy is trying to peddle.

Democracy is not an ideal to be striven for, and despite the Founders' biases, it's a fact that a lot of the masses are too poorly informed to govern themselves.

Look at the massive welfare state which has resulted in widespread dependence and a profound lack of progress in the groups where it is most prevalent. Indeed, they have regressed in almost every measurable way.

As always, the solution for guys like this writer is always the same: all we need is more socialism/Marxism. Who'd have thunk it?

I wouldn't use this article for toilet paper if it was printed. Kindling, maybe...

14 posted on 06/01/2015 1:10:39 AM PDT by sargon
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"celebrated" ... "comprehensively researched" ... "the nation’s rich white fathers crafted a form of “popular government” (their deeply deceptive term)" ..."sanctified the epic un-freedom and anti-democracy of black chattel slavery"... ..."negates popular sovereignty, as intended" ... ..."The same corporate and financial largesse that plays such a critical role in tilting the nation’s elections towards the business-friendly right"...

And this bon mot:

"Certainly, it’s absurd to think that a document crafted by wealthy slave-owners, merchants, and other vast property-holders with the explicit purpose of keeping the “wicked” popular majority and its “secret sigh for redistribution” at bay can function in meaningful service to popular self-rule in the 21st (or any other) century.

This is a poorly written article. When you have to use words as "celebrated" and "comprehensively researched" to describe the authorities you reference (itself a giant logical fallacy), you've lost the argument.

'Pod.

15 posted on 06/01/2015 1:41:24 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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Kudos to the author for being honest about his goal.

This call is something those who want a convention called by the states to propose amendments should consider.

The original Constitutional Convention was also called to propose changes to the existing government. It wound up completely replacing it.

I think it’s reasonable to note that under the principles of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, we as a people have every right to completely change our system, if we so decide. I suspect the Founders would be astonished that their Constitution is still (sort of) in effect despite the amazing changes in the world.


18 posted on 06/01/2015 3:01:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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“Other countries hold such constituent assemblies (for example, Venezuela in 1999, Bolivia in 2006-7, and Ecuador in 2007-2008) and so should the U.S. Certainly,”

Yeah, those are 3 countries we should emulate/s.


19 posted on 06/01/2015 3:27:29 AM PDT by dynachrome (We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values.)
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Lessons in democracy and the US Constitution brought to you by the governments of the Castros, Chavezes & Kirchners. Obama & his Democrats would approve!

The source TeleSUR:

"Its sponsors are the governments of Argentina 20%, Bolivia 5%, Cuba 19%, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Uruguay 10% and Venezuela 51%." -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleSUR


20 posted on 06/01/2015 3:59:04 AM PDT by drpix
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U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders in a foreword to the book Dollarocracy wrote that, “we cannot govern our own affairs when our national, state, and local debates are bought and sold by billionaires, who use thirty-second commercials to shout down anyone who disagrees…

This is an unsupported assertion. All that follows is nonsensical.

Thanks to our God-inspired Constitution the United States of America became the most powerful country on Earth. The USA has drifted away from God and from defending our Constitution. Progress has been in the wrong direction since Carter took office.

We now have rampant corruption and chaos that is not even recognized as such. Some leader has to connect the dots and take corrective action. This will not be easy given the warped, twisted, and self centered thinking of too many of today's voters, IMO.

The pool of low information voters is increasing.

21 posted on 06/01/2015 4:46:44 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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"There is something in the Citizens United decision that is kryptonite to the Left. It's elimination is just about all they ever want to talk about."

Implicit in that talk is the faulty assumption that the big corporate money comes only from conservatives for conservative causes.

And that unions weren't a major beneficiary of Citizens United.

22 posted on 06/01/2015 5:15:24 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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Wow. So much drivel. So many words. Being such an historic scholarly article, yet misunderstanding completely, totally, and fully, the intent of the Constitution, the intent of the “holy” Founding Fathers... Wow.

The Constitution of The United States of America was indeed the 5,000 year leap forward in the advancement of humankind. No country has ever become so strong, powerful, wealthy, and benevolent in so short a time in human history.

Yet pimple-face here thinks it’s a bad thing.


25 posted on 06/01/2015 5:50:34 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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Betcha this guy is a “Declaration of Independence denier”, too...


26 posted on 06/01/2015 5:54:18 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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Democracy was a dangerous concept to them, conferring “unchecked rule by the masses,” which was “sure to bring arbitrary redistribution of property, destroying the very essence of liberty.”

Which is, I suppose, the reason they formed a REPUBLIC, instead of a straight-up democracy.

27 posted on 06/01/2015 6:02:26 AM PDT by WayneS
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