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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

GET A WARRANT.

What we know:
Information on every phone call was (is?) being collected
with a promise (cough cough) that no one will look at it
unless somebody thinks you might be “up to something”:
caller’s #;
recipient’s #;
time call placed;
length of call;
location of caller (via cell tower);
location of recipient (via cell tower).

Many just shrug their shoulders and say,
“Well, if you aren’t doing anything wrong,
then you don’t have anything to worry about.”
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OK
Let’s put tracking devices in everyone’s vehicles,
and record where you go, how long you are there,
how fast you drive, how hard you brake, etc.,
with a promise (cough cough) that no one will look at it
unless somebody thinks you might be “up to something”.

Not a problem?
“Well, if you aren’t doing anything wrong,
then you don’t have anything to worry about.”
-
How about this?
Let’s put a camera in your home and record everything
that goes on and upload it to the cloud,
with a promise (cough cough) that no one will look at it
unless somebody thinks you might be “up to something”.

Not a problem?
“Well, if you aren’t doing anything wrong,
then you don’t have anything to worry about.”
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Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
houses, papers, and effects,
against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.


28 posted on 05/31/2015 11:19:08 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th ("We The People" have met the enemy; and it is "We The People".)
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To: Repeal The 17th
What we know: Information on every phone call was (is?) being collected with a promise (cough cough) that no one will look at it unless somebody thinks you might be “up to something”:

It's not a promise, it's written into the law, and that requires a warrant. The law specifically targets people who are suspected of being involved in the planning or carrying out of terrorist attacks. It's not vague over who is being targeted.

30 posted on 05/31/2015 11:38:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Ditto - Point well expressed.

And, lets not forget, the issue that led to the Islamic attacks of September 11, 2001 - the FBI and CIA could not share information, due to a policy “wall” that was established by the Democrats - who then had the chutzpah to criticize both agencies for not sharing information! ... Oh, and also for reason of the philandering coward who occupied the Oval Office prior to GWB - the guy who had OBL offered on a silver platter, but refused to take action for fear that non-combatants might get killed ... and so he set the stage for 3000+ non-combatants to be slaughtered.

Now, those are the facts that led to the worst attack on American soil since December 7, 1941 ...

Funny how, notwithstanding the destructive actions of the Clintons and the Democrats in general, we did just fine without NSA sticking a microscope up every American citizen’s butt. Funny too, how the NSA has not prevented one single terrorist attempt since 9/11/2001. Rather, the work of ordinary American citizens is what has stopped Muslim dogs form completing their plans.

Of course, with Obama aiding and abetting ISIS, and then all but building a nuclear bomb for Iran, I doubt that vigilance on the part of the average American citizen will save our butts from something worse than 9/11... But then I fully expect the police state mentality of certain dimwits around here will fault our dissing the NSA’s fishing expedition - when the blame rightly belongs to Barack Hussein Obama and his acts of perfidy and treason.


33 posted on 05/31/2015 11:49:05 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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