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Rick Santorum Announcing Run for President [today in PA]
ABC News ^ | 05/27/2015 | Ben Gittleson

Posted on 05/27/2015 8:29:13 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Rick Santorum, the former Republican senator from Pennsylvania, will announce today that he will seek the GOP nomination for president in 2016, ABC News has learned. ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos will sit down for an exclusive interview with Santorum this afternoon.

Santorum, 57, is set to reveal his presidential intentions at an event today in Cabot, Pa., near his childhood home. It will be his second run for the White House, almost four years after he won primaries and caucuses in 11 states and finished second to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the race for the Republican nomination.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; biggovernment; cruzorlose; santorum2016
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To: C. Edmund Wright

They chose not to be aware.


81 posted on 05/27/2015 11:29:25 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: GIdget2004
Why?
82 posted on 05/27/2015 11:40:56 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ansel12
Ted Cruz will take the social conservatives and the Evangelicals, by the way, the true conservatives.

With this glut of candidates, the evangelical/social conservative vote will be split between Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, and Carson. The fiscal conservative vote will be split between Cruz, Paul, Walker, and Fiorina. All of this splinters the anti-establishment vote and helps Jeb.

The wild cards are what role Rubio and Perry (if he runs) will play. Will they siphon off Tea Party votes away from Cruz, etc, or will they take more votes from Jeb? Hopefully the latter, since it doesn't look like Christie will run and Lindsey Graham doesn't have the traction to split the RINO vote for us.

83 posted on 05/27/2015 11:53:12 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

The tea party is made up mostly of social conservatives.

Ted Cruz will do best with social conservatives, remember that people will be dropping out as things go along, it isn’t like all these bit players will be there for long, their support will be shifting to the big boys as the primary goes along.


84 posted on 05/27/2015 12:02:39 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I have nothing against Santorum. Nothing he says offends me. However, he just doesn’t have the ‘zing’ needed to get anyone’s attention. Sorry, but for all his pluses, that one minus right there is a BIG drawback.


85 posted on 05/27/2015 12:04:36 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

I understand that he doesn’t offend you like he does me and some other conservatives, but we know him better.

You don’t support him anyway so this is moot to you, but for his supporters, if they knew his true history, they would be pretty shocked.

Look at post 79 for instance.


86 posted on 05/27/2015 12:09:44 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: GIdget2004
ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos will sit down for an exclusive interview with Santorum this afternoon.


Leave it to publicity hound and nowhere candidate Sanotrum to throw George Stephanopoulos a political, journalist life line.

ABC NEWS thanks Santorum!

87 posted on 05/27/2015 12:15:55 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: fwdude
Coveting the belongs of others is a sin. Gluttony is a sin. Anger is a sin, as are lust, and avarice and pride.

Would you support a "Christian" candidate to outlaw those things?

88 posted on 05/27/2015 1:17:18 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: fwdude
You are also off base in this: ZERO conservatives that I know of are calling to make it illegal for a baker to bake a "wedding" cake for two homosexuals pretending to get married. There are ZERO conservative that I know of who are calling to outlaw renting an apartment to two homosexuals, which BY DEFINITION means laws either against renting to two people of the same sex OR differing sexes who are unmarried.

Leftists are calling for laws OUTLAWING free people -- the baker, the landlord -- to peacefully, civilly tell open admitted homosexuals or "shacked-up" guys and gals to go somewhere else.

I despise the gay lifestyle, but I despise nanny-state moralists such as yourself who presume to use government FORCE to punish sins as crimes, every bit as much.

89 posted on 05/27/2015 1:22:45 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: fwdude
Yes, homosexuality is a sin, and it should also be a CRIME.

Gossiping is a sin. Should it also be a crime?

90 posted on 05/27/2015 1:24:05 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Stupid comment. You are too blind to realize that EVERY law makes moral judgments. Until you come to that realization, there is no use in continuing a fruitless conversation.


91 posted on 05/27/2015 1:41:34 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude; All
You are such a coward, and you obviously fail to know yoru own mind.

If you have any honor or if you know your mind, ANSWER THIS, dude: Should all sins be crimes? How do you differentiate between criminalizing worshiping graven images and coveting the belongs of others -- both clearly sins -- and criminalizing two men voluntarily pretending to have sex together? Criminalizing murder and thievery make sense because those are CRIMES against others. You want to criminalize crimes against God.

You are absolutely blind as to the proper, moral role of government, versus the proper, moral roles of churches and parents.

93 posted on 05/27/2015 1:58:17 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

So, you don’t think that the anti-sodomy laws were necessary or appropriate?

Your answer will tell all.


94 posted on 05/27/2015 2:04:47 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude
I think the anti-sodomy laws were vanities and in vain. Sodomy is a crime against GOD, as is sloth, gossip, worshipping graven images, coveting, lust, and having any other god before the Almighty. The consequences for engaging in those crimes will inevitably come from the hand of God -- and dude, there is not one single solitary person among us who is without sin. We have ALL committed crimes against God.

Other sins include murder, thievery, battery, rape, and bearing false witness; those sins are not only crimes against God, they are crimes of harm and force against innocent people, and laws against them are NECESSARY and APPROPRIATE to make sure there are earthly, immediate negative consequences for crimes against PEOPLE. I know you will say "But any sin is a crime against people," and I would say tend to the beam in your own eye before you presume to take on the role of judgment dispenser for the private, personal sins of your brothers and sisters.

I answered your question. Now answer mine, please. Why not criminalize sins such as gossip, lust, or gluttony? They are sins exactly the same way that homosexuality is a sin.

Again, I answered your question because I KNOW my mind on this. Do you know your mind well enough on this issue to answer my question to you? Why not make a crime of other sins, like gossip, sloth, gluttony, or having sex outside of marriage?

95 posted on 05/27/2015 2:18:34 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny; fwdude
I answered your question. Now answer mine, please. Why not criminalize sins such as gossip, lust, or gluttony? They are sins exactly the same way that homosexuality is a sin.

Can you picture a Presidential candidate campaigning on a platform of criminalizing adultery or fornication? Probably not, even though these are arguably a greater social threat to marriage and family than homosexuality.

96 posted on 05/27/2015 3:13:30 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck; fwdude; All
They are ALL threats. But the problem we have today isn't because of lack of laws prohibiting homosexuality and shacking-up outside of marriage.

What truly threatens society are laws that criminalize the actions of peacefully, civilly TELLING THEM TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. Personally, I think a presidential candidate who campaigned on a platform of de-criminalizing bakeries, landlords, employers, adoption agencies, military agencies, schools, etc. who choose to peacefully, civilly tell open homosexuals to take it somewhere else, would WIN.

Again, the problem isn't lack of laws criminalizing private/personal sins and weaknesses (as opposed to public sins such as murder, thievery, rape, assault, etc.). The problem is the existence of laws, pushed by the left, that criminalize moral people who peacefully, civilly tell homosexuals to go somewhere else.

97 posted on 05/27/2015 3:27:19 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: fwdude
Your answer will tell all.

And your failure to respond in kind, tells all as well.

See #95. Still waiting.

98 posted on 05/27/2015 4:18:26 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
They are ALL threats. But the problem we have today isn't because of lack of laws prohibiting homosexuality and shacking-up outside of marriage.

I think we're in agreement. Adultery and homosexuality are obviously undesirable socially, I just don't think that having laws (especially federal laws) against private vice is the right way to deal with them.

That being said, I often wonder why the "family values" crowd obsesses so much over homosexuality as the biggest threat to families, as opposed to divorce or adultery. Most families aren't being broken up because mom or dad decide to go gay (and in fact, there would be no such cases if there weren't a social pressure for homos to be closet cases). They break up because of no-fault divorce laws and a society that finds adultery acceptable (much more so than homosexuality)

99 posted on 05/28/2015 7:52:33 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
Amen, amen, amen!!! In fact, no-fault divorce is probably responsible for a LOT of fatherless boys becoming homosexual. Divorce is a FAR FAR bigger threat to society. Boys grow up seeing how fathers are treated (money slaves with no authority) and on a subconscious level come to resent women, and girls grow up with ridiculous expectations of what a "man" and "father" should be. I used to love James Dobson, but he lost me long ago: if he was really what he says he is, he'd be spending his time fighting evil, wicked "family law" protocol rather than going after homosexuals.

I have long thought that no-fault divorce laws combined with "family law" (a cruel oxymoron) courts where a woman can leave her husband for any or no reason at all, get the kids and the house plus a large child support income tax free, and "uncle dad" gets to see the kids two weekends a month and one night a week at best. Authority to discipline goes to the mom, and if dad does something she doesn't like, Child Services is right there to track dad down and remedy it -- mom doesn't have to hire a lawyer.

On the other hand, if mom lets the kids flake out on visitation ("Johnny had other plans this weekend so he's not going to be spending it with you, sorry, I can't do anything about it") or if mom spends the child support money on stuff for herself, dad has to HIRE A LAWYER to fight it, and he's so broke from the child support payments he can't afford it.

How do I know this? I have lived it first hand and seen it in literally dozens and dozens of friends and relatives.

In my opinion, easy no-fault woman-favored divorce in the U.S. has contributed hugely to the rise in homosexuality in our culture.

100 posted on 05/28/2015 8:42:56 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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