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Special Report U.S. military and civilians are increasingly divided
The Los Angeles Times ^ | May 23, 2015 | David Zucchino and David S. Cloud

Posted on 05/24/2015 10:39:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Jovano Graves' parents begged him not to join the Army right out of high school in 2003, when U.S. troops were fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan..

But their son refused his parents' pleas to try college. He followed them both into the Army instead.

Last June, 11 years later, Staff Sgt. Jovano Graves returned home from Afghanistan, joining his mother, Chief Warrant Officer 4 Sonia Graves-Rivers, for duty here at Ft. Bragg.

"My family, going way, way back, has always felt so proud to be Americans," said Graves-Rivers, who comes from a family in which military service spans six generations, starting with her great-great-grandfather, Pfc. Marion Peeples, who served in a segregated black unit during World War I.

Her father, Cpl. Harvey Lee Peeples, fought in the Vietnam War. Her uncle, Henry Jones, was career Air Force. Another uncle, Sgt. 1st Class Robert Graves, spent 22 years in the Army. Her sister, Janice, served 24 years....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; military
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To: Semper Mark; sickoflibs

He’s drunk.

(And evidently, Thick as a Brick.)


61 posted on 05/25/2015 12:41:35 AM PDT by shibumi ("Walk Through the Fire, Fly Through the Smoke")
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To: shibumi; Salamander

They might become Narsty Bikers.


62 posted on 05/25/2015 12:42:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: onyx; sickoflibs

A partial Palin thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3293201/posts


63 posted on 05/25/2015 12:44:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: onyx

Rudyard Kipling
Tommy

I went into a public-’ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-’alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.

Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul?”
But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.

You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees!


64 posted on 05/25/2015 12:44:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Semper Mark

Hi Mark!

/waves wildly


65 posted on 05/25/2015 12:44:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL


66 posted on 05/25/2015 12:45:25 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: onyx; 2ndDivisionVet
RE:”sicko(flibs) needs attention! “

Attention???

I do???

How hard can be to get here? Even in the middle of the night?

Or morning?

If that is my goal then you two are my best friends.

67 posted on 05/25/2015 12:45:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs; 2ndDivisionVet; Jet Jaguar; shibumi; Old Sarge

What’s wrong with you?

I don’t trust anyone who wasn’t in the Military.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, ___.


68 posted on 05/25/2015 12:48:58 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx
RE:”A partial Palin thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3293201/posts";

It says “Recently, Huckabee attacked Senator Ted Cruz comparing his zeal to that of General Custer at the Little Big Horn. “

I am not much of a Huckabee fan.

69 posted on 05/25/2015 12:49:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Semper Mark

..!.. <==== I recognize this.

It’s the thing we used on Atari games.


70 posted on 05/25/2015 12:50:42 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: sickoflibs

I Been To Zimbabwe


71 posted on 05/25/2015 12:52:01 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: sickoflibs; onyx

Keep reading, he references Sarah Palin a little further down the page.


72 posted on 05/25/2015 12:52:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Heh.


73 posted on 05/25/2015 12:52:45 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hey...guess how many of these guys were rounded up and given million dollar bails for shooting the place up.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article22097949.html


74 posted on 05/25/2015 12:54:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Salamander
RE:”I Been To Zimbabwe”

That is the last place I would go on vacation.

I prefer blue clear water and quiet, not constant gunshot sounds.

75 posted on 05/25/2015 12:56:41 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Salamander

/waves wildly in return!


76 posted on 05/25/2015 12:57:28 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tempes was a piker.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL.


77 posted on 05/25/2015 12:58:33 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx
RE:” Keep reading, he references Sarah Palin a little further down the page”

Who???
I think I have heard that name before but it doesn't quite ring a bell... is she a singer???

78 posted on 05/25/2015 12:59:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

Tequila?


79 posted on 05/25/2015 12:59:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

BUMP


80 posted on 05/25/2015 1:00:01 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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