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To: kearnyirish2

It’s disgusting. I will say, though, that I think it’s the Irish hierarchy that corrupted the Faith in Ireland, both through their sinful actions and their ambiguous words.

BXVI tried to remove some of this group. But I think Francis has unfortunately restored them to grace, and this is the result.


56 posted on 05/23/2015 5:10:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Maybe it was trying to tie Ireland to the church that eventually lost Ireland in this manner, ironically speaking.

People tend to think that oh, I am by some worldly arrangement a member of a church, I am fine with the Lord. And that isn’t true. Far better that through evangelization they were moved to voluntarily embrace the Lord.

Maybe the best way that Rome could help Ireland now is by clarifying that no, being Ireland does not make it Christian (of Catholic persuasion or otherwise) any more than sitting in a garage makes a person into a car.


63 posted on 05/23/2015 5:25:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: livius

It is more than that; they are determined to shake the traditionalist image that has been used to belittle them by more “progressive” populations. As for their clergy sex crimes, the Church has lost any special place under the law; let justice be swift.


90 posted on 05/23/2015 6:51:46 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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