Any more it’s getting to where reading the news has become an exercise in dissecting a narrative.
“First they came for the bikers, but I wasn’t a biker. I hated bikers.”
ADDRESSING WACO
It was a well known fact by all bikers, citizens and yes, WACO police (which includes FEDS) that the COC [Confederation of CLubs] meeting would be held on Sunday. All of the above groups, 1%’s, MC’s and Biker Orgs attend these meetings. Again the COC is a way to let others know about upcoming legislation, events & rides as well as discuss Patch issues. (Patches are the symbols that each group wears on their leathers, letting others know what group they represent).
There are several “theories” floating around ~ Let’s get rid of the first one, it was NOT a fight over a parking space! Bikers rarely if ever fight over a freaking parking space! They don’t need to, they can fit 2-3 bikes per space!
The second we hear is that it started in the bathroom, that could be the case as per other reports there was an issue that occurred. However, the weekend before the planned COC meeting there was an issue that may have spilled over to the fight that occurred. BUT the fight broke our PRIOR to meeting time.
What we DO know is that the place was already surrounded by FEDS, WACO Police and ATF LONG before any biker showed up! WHY were they there? Literally HUNDREDS of biker meetings between the various 1%, MC’s and Org’s had met there in the past ….ALL peacefully! The PD states it was because of the dispute the previous week. HOWEVER, there was a fight that started inside Twin Peaks and made it’s way outside! Those fighting had KNIVES …NOT GUNS when they took the fight outside.
NO GUNS were shown as the fight made it outside from our understanding, but that is when the police started firing. WE DO NOT know if someone pulled out a gun from within the groups OR if the police were just too quick on their draw! Either way, ALMOST all shots fired came from police…not the ones fighting. ***again this is from we are getting from those there***
HERE IS OUR TAKE ON IT ALL:
WACO PD have not been very friendly towards bikers and the FEDS TOTALLY despise Bikers! Why? Because we are not afraid of them or their agenda! We are a threat to them! Remember folks we were able to organize in 24 days 800,000 -1.2 million bikers to DC! We did it WITHOUT their permission or support! They even SHUT DOWN the traffic cams…had the news NOT flown over the scene there would have been NO proof that we rode! Yes, folks, like it or not even 1%’s rode with us! They set aside their territories and rode peacefully! JUST like they do at ALL COC meetings!
Bikers stand up to them, to their Christian hate, their muslim agenda and whatever else they want to throw at us! BIKERS ARE PRESENTLY THE BACKBONE of PATRIOT AMERICA! WHAT BETTER WAY TO BRING THEM DOWN THAN WITH BAD PRESS SUCH AS THIS!
OUR question to WACO PD & FEDS ~
WHO’s bullets killed the 9 who died and those taken to the hospital?
Where is all the video from that surrounds the TWIN PEAKS and all the other businesses?
WHY have no charges been filed yet EACH of those in custody have a $1,000,000 bond?
WHY were those who had LEGAL carry permits arrested?
WHY are so many being held in jail that do not have records, were not part of the OMG’s they (PD) were targeting?
WHY are ALL BIKES of those in jail being confiscated via Civil Forfeiture? Civil forfeiture is supposed to occur if someone is found GUILTY of a crime while that “property” was in use or used to commit the crime!
WHY are bikers that had NO association with their targets being held on $1,000,000 bond? MANY are Christian Bikers and Veteran Bikers who committed no crime other than being on the scene?
Now as a whole this group does NOT condone police bashing, FED bashing YES….but WACO PD seems to be part of the FED agenda! So America, ask yourselves this…WHEN SHTF (and it will) WHO do you want on YOUR side? BIKERS OR FEDS? We KNOW where the FEDS stand and we KNOW how much they hate bikers!
LAST NOTE: There was NEVER EVER any threats made to WACO PD! That was TOTALLY made up!
But it's a sad comment on the state of affairs (trust issues) that many people would read this and nod their heads, thinking, "I can see that happening".
Occam's razor applies here, I think.
Later
Many thanks for posting this!
Ping!
It sounds like it’s right out of British General Frank Kitson’s “Gangs and Counter-gangs” manual. He developed the technique as a young British officer during the Mau-Mau War in Kenya. You have your own side dress up like the enemy and perpetrate atrocities against rival enemy gangs so that they will turn on one another. It’s false-flag stuff all the way.
Kitson was the first commanding general during the British occupation of Northern Ireland. The false-flag “counter gangs” method that worked well in Kenya was a total disaster in Ireland, and led to 20 years of civil war.
No matter what else happened in Waco, the ATF (running the show with their lap-poodles in the Waco PD) has declared war on all one-percenters. This will not end with the Waco Massacre, any more than false-flag “counter-gang” operations in Northern Ireland ended the conflict there. Kitson’s false-flag ops in Northern Ireland just poured gasoline on a small brush fire.
The outlaw bikers will never forget this ambush massacre (as they will regard it forever).
“First they came for the bikers, but I wasn’t a biker. I hated bikers.”
ADDRESSING WACO
It was a well known fact by all bikers, citizens and yes, WACO police (which includes FEDS) that the COC [Confederation of CLubs] meeting would be held on Sunday. All of the above groups, 1%’s, MC’s and Biker Orgs attend these meetings. Again the COC is a way to let others know about upcoming legislation, events & rides as well as discuss Patch issues. (Patches are the symbols that each group wears on their leathers, letting others know what group they represent).
There are several “theories” floating around ~ Let’s get rid of the first one, it was NOT a fight over a parking space! Bikers rarely if ever fight over a freaking parking space! They don’t need to, they can fit 2-3 bikes per space!
The second we hear is that it started in the bathroom, that could be the case as per other reports there was an issue that occurred. However, the weekend before the planned COC meeting there was an issue that may have spilled over to the fight that occurred. BUT the fight broke our PRIOR to meeting time.
What we DO know is that the place was already surrounded by FEDS, WACO Police and ATF LONG before any biker showed up! WHY were they there? Literally HUNDREDS of biker meetings between the various 1%, MC’s and Org’s had met there in the past ….ALL peacefully! The PD states it was because of the dispute the previous week. HOWEVER, there was a fight that started inside Twin Peaks and made it’s way outside! Those fighting had KNIVES …NOT GUNS when they took the fight outside.
NO GUNS were shown as the fight made it outside from our understanding, but that is when the police started firing. WE DO NOT know if someone pulled out a gun from within the groups OR if the police were just too quick on their draw! Either way, ALMOST all shots fired came from police…not the ones fighting. ***again this is from we are getting from those there***
HERE IS OUR TAKE ON IT ALL:
WACO PD have not been very friendly towards bikers and the FEDS TOTALLY despise Bikers! Why? Because we are not afraid of them or their agenda! We are a threat to them! Remember folks we were able to organize in 24 days 800,000 -1.2 million bikers to DC! We did it WITHOUT their permission or support! They even SHUT DOWN the traffic cams…had the news NOT flown over the scene there would have been NO proof that we rode! Yes, folks, like it or not even 1%’s rode with us! They set aside their territories and rode peacefully! JUST like they do at ALL COC meetings!
Bikers stand up to them, to their Christian hate, their muslim agenda and whatever else they want to throw at us! BIKERS ARE PRESENTLY THE BACKBONE of PATRIOT AMERICA! WHAT BETTER WAY TO BRING THEM DOWN THAN WITH BAD PRESS SUCH AS THIS!
OUR question to WACO PD & FEDS ~
WHO’s bullets killed the 9 who died and those taken to the hospital?
Where is all the video from that surrounds the TWIN PEAKS and all the other businesses?
WHY have no charges been filed yet EACH of those in custody have a $1,000,000 bond?
WHY were those who had LEGAL carry permits arrested?
WHY are so many being held in jail that do not have records, were not part of the OMG’s they (PD) were targeting?
WHY are ALL BIKES of those in jail being confiscated via Civil Forfeiture? Civil forfeiture is supposed to occur if someone is found GUILTY of a crime while that “property” was in use or used to commit the crime!
WHY are bikers that had NO association with their targets being held on $1,000,000 bond? MANY are Christian Bikers and Veteran Bikers who committed no crime other than being on the scene?
Now as a whole this group does NOT condone police bashing, FED bashing YES….but WACO PD seems to be part of the FED agenda! So America, ask yourselves this…WHEN SHTF (and it will) WHO do you want on YOUR side? BIKERS OR FEDS? We KNOW where the FEDS stand and we KNOW how much they hate bikers!
LAST NOTE: There was NEVER EVER any threats made to WACO PD! That was TOTALLY made up!
An aside - how about following the money?
Civil Asset Forfeiture - Waco PD is going to clean up bigtime on this one (I saw an estimate of 3 million+)
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Our friend’s sister divorced a guy 2 years ago who is a Bandito, and was involved in the Waco shootout, and is now in jail on $1 million bail.
He is a low class doosh. He never worked but always had money. He could never account for his money.
It turns out his “job” is (”was”, really) to transport drugs from McAllen, TX to Midland, TX every other month or so. Apparently they take turns. He transported the drugs on his motorcycle, while wearing his biker colors.
Oh, and his 1 phone call from jail? It was to some acquaintance with the message to “clean his house”, meaning dispose of drugs and guns. He did not arrange for someone to look after his 2 boys home alone with no food.
Pick up your phone Alex wants to talk.
Rockwell is insane why bother?
US Defenders
http://www.usdefender.net/
US Defenders / Leadership
http://www.usdefender.net/#!leadership/cjg9
Texas / Confederation of Clubs / State Officers and Commanders
http://www.usdefender.net/#!texas/c220n
Coalition of Independent Riders
http://www.usdefender.net/#!coir/cfvg
There are plenty of other links and pages at the various sites to better inform some of you, as to the kind of people that attend an organizational meeting, like the one that took place in Waco, at the Twin Peaks restaurant, and why they would all gather under one roof.
Some of you need to put your reading glasses on before you put your keyboards in gear, and some of you need to just plain shut the hell up.