Posted on 05/20/2015 12:22:29 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
With the number of laws and regulation we've seen put in place in the last decade or so, the position of "I don't break the law, so I don't care if they look at my email, phone calls, etc" just doesn't make any sense. It is now impossible to know with any certainty whether we are breaking any laws or not, and indeed, for those with power, the law doesn't matter anyway! We've seen plenty examples of late of innocent people being put through the wringer by one agency or another. If you think all this collected date stays within the NSA, think again...
He took the floor at 1:18pm EDT.
I’m sorry, this isn’t included in my copy of the Patriot Act - I’ve just got the one which includes a load of invasive record keeping on Americans making very standard deposits in their accounts, recording of gold storage for later hoarding confiscation and whatnot. Which copy of the Patriot Act includes illegal phone tapping and bulk capture of phone records?
WE have it on. We stand with Rand.
You mean, “Pand?”
;-)
LOL! The NSA section, of course - you must just be looking at the IRS and Banking sections...
How embarrassing. Put it in Breaking News, too.
Meh.
We’ve all done it.
OMG - how did I not even see that when I previewed??? Hopefully everyone on FR is smart enough to figure it out...
Following the Patriot Act these seem to be guidelines now.UNITED STATES SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE DIRECTIVE (USSID) 18
LEGAL COMPLIANCE AND MINIMIZATION PROCEDURES (FOUO)
LETTER OF PROMULGATION
(U) this USSID prescribes policies and procedures and assigns responsibilities to ensure that the missions and functions of the United States SIGINT System (USSS) are conducted in a manner that safeguards the constitutional rights of U.S. persons.
(U) This USSID has been completely rewritten to make it shorter and easier to understand. It constitutes a summary of the laws and regulations directly affecting USSS operations. All USSS personnel who collect, process, retain, or disseminate information to, from, or about U.S. persons or persons in the United States must be familiar with its contents.
(FOUO) This USSID supercedes USSID 18 and USSID 18, Annex A (distributed separately to selected recipients), both of which are dated 20 October 1980, and must now be destroyed. Notify DIRNSA/CHSS (USSID Manager) if this edition of USSID 18 is destroyed because of an emergency action; otherwise, request approval from DIRNSA/CHSS before destroying this USSID.
(FOUO) Release or exposure of this document to contractors and consultants without approval from the USSID Manager is prohibited. Instructions applicable to release or exposure of USSID to contractors and consultants may be found in USSID 19.
(FOUO) Questions and comments concerning this USSID should be addressed to the Office of the General Counsel, NSA/CSS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx NSTS 963-3121 or STU III 688-5015).
(SNIP)
SECTION 4 - COLLECTION
4.1 Communications to, from or About U.S. Persons and xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx to the United States
a. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Approval
b. Attorney General Approval
c. DIRNSA/CHSS Approval
d. Emergency Situations
e. Annual Reports
4.2 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.3 Incidental Acquisition of U.S. Person Information
4.4 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.5 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.6 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.7 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.8 Distress Signals
4.9 COMSEC Monitoring and Security Testing of Automated Information Systems
(&tc. &tc.)
Go Rand! And I say this as someone who supports Cruz for president... but Rand is a decent man.
Yeh too bad he’s the only one with the stones to stand up for our personal freedoms every single day. The Patriot Act IMO is one of the biggest thefts of our personal freedoms in history. It needs to be wrestled to the ground and stake put through its heart. :-)
Good for Rand.
The fact that this is campaign gimmickry designed to bring him some headlines notwithstanding - This is still a good move.
Exactly! Our laws are supposed to be written in simple, easy to understand language, not made up as Christmas trees to have everyone's wish list on in bureaucratese,which is exactly what the Patriot Act was in the first place, and each 'renewal' seems to make it even worse.
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Sen. Rand Paul’s Patriot Act ‘filibuster’ that isn’t
Politico | 05/20/2015 | By ALEX BYERS
Posted on 05/20/2015 12:35:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3291873/posts
lol
nice try Paul.
But, we aren’t buying it.
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