Posted on 05/20/2015 6:41:13 AM PDT by wagglebee
Paul isn’t running for state office, he is running for president.
What does your post have to do with the importance of his views on abortion, in regards to the office that he is running for?
You are trying to evade the abortion issue, just like Rand Paul is.
Settled law.
LOL
There is no such thing as “settled law”. The law is always subject to NEW law. If abortion is ruled illegal in the future, will that be settled law ?
NOBODY has a right to murder. That people currently are not prosecuted for it is an evil which can be overturned in the future. As for so-called libertarians ? Go find a perfect world, inhabited by perfect people, and e mail me when you discover it.
The right to life, as Wagglebee has pointed out, is enshrined in the 5th amendment and the 14th amendment. It is the major right mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.
Without “Life” all of the other arguments about states, choice, freedom, etc. are just so much jaw-boning.
Arbitrarily taking a life is the ultimate violation of the law of the universe, the law of Nature’s God. It should be evident to any thinking and/or moral creature that life is the penultimate right.
Life is not a right that states can violate if they wish. It cannot be violated at all except in accord with very strict provisions regarding trials, courts, due process, etc.
What crime has the baby committed? What trial have they had? What hearing? What accusers stepped forward?
Why is that baby’s life taken?
Rand Paul sounds more and more like his lunatic dad as each month goes by.
As for so-called libertarians ? Go find a perfect world, inhabited by perfect people, and e mail me when you discover it.
At their core libertarians are Utopian anarchists.
” What crime has the baby committed? What trial have they had? What hearing? What accusers stepped forward?”
NO LAWYERS representing the unborn child..
“Eyes, I just do eyes.”
One of my favorite quotes from “Bladerunner.”
Maybe I should have used the full quote:
“Don’t know such stuff. Eyes, I just do eyes.”
It was the same "crime" that was used as an excuse to sentence Terri Schiavo to death ten years ago.
And libertarians are fine with this. They adore the 10th Amendment based on a faulty reading of it, they don't understand the 5th Amendment and they abhor EVERYTHING about the 14th Amendment.
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I don’t understand why pro-life freepers allow the libertarians to drag them into a “states right to abortion” argument, when the discussion is federal politics, presidential candidates, and the importance of the president being a pro-life warrior.
What about on military base hospitals for federal military and in federal hospitals, federal contracts and union negotiations, do people here know about the federal back and forth about abortion on military bases, since the 1960s?
The federal government makes it’s own policy and law in regards to abortion, a state doesn’t tell it what it is.
Here is an example of the president’s role:
The Mexico City Policy requires all non-governmental organizations (NGOs) that receive federal funding to refrain from performing or promoting abortion services as a method of family planning with non-US government funds in other countries. The policy has not been in effect since January 23, 2009. Since 1973, USAID has followed the Helms Amendment ruling, banning use of US Government funds to provide abortion as a method of family planning anywhere in the world.
The policy was enacted by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1984, rescinded by Democratic President Bill Clinton in January 1993, re-instituted in January 2001 as President George W. Bush took office, and rescinded January 23, 2009, 2 days after Democratic President Barack Obama took office.
I don't recognize a "right" to abortion ANYWHERE. It's not in the Constitution, hell it isn't even in Roe (the opinion itself says that a baby's personhood entitles it to due process protection).
” The “crime” that these children have committed is that they are inconvenient.”
Hitler reached the same conclusion about Jews. Inconvenient.
Terri was inconvenient too.
Yes, and when faced with the same dilemma murdering innocent persons that we see today, Hitler simply declared the Jews to be "subhumans" (e.g. nonpersons) and proceeded to "legally" kill them.
” Hitler simply declared the Jews to be “subhumans” (e.g. nonpersons) and proceeded to “legally” kill them. “
Well stated.
You missed the point of that post, it wasn’t about whether you support abortion anywhere.
Unlike,say, Ted Cruz who wants to actively INCREASE the number of ridiculous H1B scab labor visas.
Don't take my word for it - here's a link from Computerworld Magazine: Ted Cruz Wants to Increase H1-B Visas by 500%
We disagree. The closer power and economic decisions are to people, the more control we have. I’d much rather that DC would stick to the small number of responsibilities given to it in the Constitution, and that’s it. Anything that can be local initiative should be. We’ve lost control, because power and wealth have gravitated upward, away from ordinary US citizens.
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